The following is a transcript of a report from "Full Measure with Sharyl Attkisson." Watch the video by clicking the link at the end of the page.
Earlier this year, The IRS announced new changes in a program that was supposed to provide free tax preparation to millions...a deal the IRS cut years ago with big tax firms. If they’d offer free help, the IRS agreed not to build its own software to do it. Turns out the free help has been too hard to find and often steered people to paid services. Paul Kiel of Propublica investigated.
Sharyl Attkisson: By way of background, has there been a lot of discussion over the years that the IRS ought to make it easier and provide a free way for people, especially of lower incomes to file?
Kiel: Yeah, I mean, so this goes back to the 1990s, you know, everybody used to file on paper. And there was a big push to get people to file electronically cause the IRS saved a lot of money. Those types of proposals have been something Intuit has viewed as a threat and have tried to stop.
Sharyl: What power do companies like Intuit have or TurboTax have to try to prevent something like this? What do they do?
Kiel: Well, they, they have an army of lobbyists. And we counted this year, they have over 40 lobbyists on Capitol Hill. You know, they spread their contributions around Congress. And also I think they're able to make the arguments that people find persuasive in part because the IRS is not a popular agency. So they're able to make arguments like, do you want the IRS unit preparing your taxes and also auditing you?
Sharyl: On its face, it sounds like a good thing that Turbo Tax and Intuit would come up with a program to let you file for free if you go to their website under certain conditions. But it sounds like you're saying that it's sort of an end run around the notion of really making it easier and free for people?
Kiel: Right. Well, I mean the main thing to know about this program, which goes back to 2002 is that very few people actually know about it. So last year under 3 million people used this program, which is you have to find sort of like a secret door on the IRS’ website. It's called the free file program. And if you may get to that page and then you file a link back to TurboTax, then you'll absolutely have a free tax return filing. Both federal and state is what they're offering right now. But very few people find that secret door. One reason for this is that intuit and H and R Block have these free offers that they make. So if you Google on the Internet free tax prep, what's going to come up usually is like TurboTax and eternal block saying hey, free. But it's a marketing ploy. Both Intuit and H and R block stop Google from indexing their pages because they didn't want people, if you googled “free tax prep,” they didn't want the government program coming up.
Sharyl: How can they stop Google?
Kiel: You can, you can put language on like, you know, basically code on your website that says “Google: no, don't read this.”
Sharyl: Were you able to find out how many people do use the free program that's available through the IRS?
Kiel: So it's under 3 million people, which, 100 million people are eligible, you know, supposedly. But no more than 5 million have ever used it in the whole history of the program. But nevertheless, the IRS claims that this is a successful program.
Sharyl: Can you quantify how much that industries, the tax filing industry spends on lobbyists lobbying and political contributions?
Kiel: I think we total those over $30 million that Intuit is used on, spent on, you know, lobbying over the last decade or so. It's an enormous return on an investment given, you know, the billions of dollars that they've made in profit. So it's, you know, it's a good investment.
Sharyl: Can you tell is whether one party political party or another political party is sort of pushing it? A lot of times it's one against the other
Kiel: Well, they've spread around their money pretty well in Congress and they've gotten bills introduced by both members of both parties.
One study found five of 12 companies that partnered with the IRS used coding that hid their free services from many online searches.
I am surprised that you don't provide a link to this hidden site in your articles. As of today, 5 August 2020, the link at the IRS is:
Of course, the link may change over time but it is there.
Thank you a lot! I was surprised too.
Thank you ~ I was just going to ask her if she would post the link!
Kim Yew says
“the provisions of the Sixteenth Amendment conferred no new power of taxation” Supreme Court - Stanton v. Baltic Mining Co. 240 US103
“The settled doctrine is that the Sixteenth Amendment confers no power upon Congress to define and tax as income without apportionment” Supreme Court - Taft v. Bowers, 278 US 470, 481 (1929)
“The 16th Amendment does not permit a new class of direct tax…” Cornell Law Quarterly, 1 Cornell L. Q. 298 (1915 - 16)
“an income tax is “indirect,”…” Harvard Law Review, 29 Harv. L. Rev 536 (1915 - 16)
“An income tax is neither a property tax nor a tax on occupations of common right, but is an excise tax…the legislature…has no power to declare as ‘privilege’ and tax for revenue purposes, occupations that are of common right” Simms v. Ahrens 271 SW 720 (1925)
The law, tax law is irrefutable. No journalist will touch this but I hope you would, the biggest story/fraud.
Glenn Lego says
How about a hidden way to get the IRS to stop sitting on my tax return/tax refund? They owe me $203 and they keep saying they are "processing " my return. They've had it since late February. i can't call them. They won't answer their phone with a human being. I try their 'Where's my refund"website and i get nothing from that. If I owed THEM any money at all they'd have some "collection agents" on my front door step with a violin case, a fedora hat and a black SUV in front of my house.
Uh, there's this thing called coronavirus (or COVID-19 if you want to save yourself a syllable of speech) affecting the nation and IRS employees aren't immune....not to mention that stay at home orders (which also affected the IRS ability to process tax returns) are determined at the State level. But yeah, it's all about you. I get it.
That's not your real name is it Karen? Or does being rude, judgemental and obnoxious just come naturally to you? I'm pretty sure the IRS is fully automated to figure the individual tax returns of every single red-blooded American, and Glen is absolutely right about his rather amusing description of the "Taxman"