One of the important fights in the coronavirus battle is happening on a DNA level. Today, we hear from Major Jeffrey Kugelman, branch chief of the genomics at the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute for Infectious Diseases in Ft. Detrick, Maryland.

Sharyl: So what is this overall, a lab area?

Major Kugelman: Yeah, this is our genomics lab.

Sharyl: If there’s something mysterious going on somewhere in the country it may come here?

Kugelman: Yes.

Sharyl: What else have you done related to this lab regarding coronavirus?

Kugelman: So one of the big things we’ve done this year is we’ve created a method, optimized a method, for massive pooling of samples. So, we have a way using the instruments here you’ll see, that can put a thousand, multiple thousands of samples in a single run and within a day, have a result on whether they have COVID or not. We’ve also multiplexed that with flu so that the same sample can then be tested at the same time for flu and for COVID. The big deal is that it increases the throughput so instead of doing this with a few hundred, we’re doing thousands at a time.

(Touring new lab)

Sharyl: And what is this lab called?

Kathleen Gibson: This laboratory is our primary PCR Core laboratory.

Kathleen Gibson’s division fills in more pieces of the genetic puzzle.

Sharyl: So you can test for coronavirus in samples here?

Gibson: Yes.

Sharyl: So mostly at this location, you do military troop samples?

Gibson: Yes.

Sharyl: What are these?

Gibson: This is a setup where we’re getting ready to run some samples this afternoon. So each subsequent step in the process, we’ll extract and purify the DNA. When it gets to the end state, then we’ll be able to load it into the instrument that will actually tell us how much DNA is in there.

Major Kugelman says some lessons have been learned from the Ebola epidemic in West Africa where he did some of the critical work.

Kugelman: So this is a MiSeq instrument. This is probably the most ubiquitous of the Illumina instruments. I took one of these with me to Liberia when we were supporting the Ebola outbreak in 2015, ’16 timeframe.

Sharyl: And in really simple terms, what does this allow you to do?

Kugelman: So this will provide 20 to 40 million small fragment reads about 300 base pairs long. So for coronavirus, because the virus moves a little slower, it allows us to tell what’s circulating in a region. For something that moves very fast, like Ebola virus, we’re actually able to tell which individual infected which individual.

The Ebola outbreak in West Africa became an emergency in the us when there were no travel restrictions and a man carried the virus to Dallas. Public pressure prompted an emergency program to funnel passengers from Ebola-stricken nations to one of five US airports for screening.

Kugelman: So in work we did in the West African outbreak, we were able to provide the first evidence that Ebola was being sexually transmitted and that was causing those flare ups at the end of the outbreak. So they were releasing men that were testing negative by blood back home. As soon as they became sexually active, at that point, we’d have another flare up of Ebola.

Sharyl: This helped you figure that out?

Kugelman: This helped us figure that out.

Sharyl (on-camera): Kugelman’s team has also been studying animals to find out exactly what happens if someone gets get flu and Covid-19 at the same time. So far, researchers say the results seem to confirm co-infection makes the illness more severe.

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8 thoughts on “WATCH: Examining COVID DNA”

  1. Sharyl, I don’t know what kind of scientist you are interviewing here, but it seems to me that there is no DNA in the covid virus. It is an RNA virus. What’s up?

  2. Sharyl and Full Measure Team,

    How does that military lab’s testing
    relate to this (( is Major Kugelman
    aware of this )) ? :

    “Documents obtained from Moderna reveal that the so-called vaccine being peddled by the company is actually an ‘operating system’. This startling admission confirms what vaccine skeptics have claimed – that COVID is about control, not a virus . . . PLAYING GOD: Head of MODERNA Says That They are Hacking the Software of Life and Rewriting Genetic Code:

    Transhumanism 101 :

    Is mRNA a (control) Messenger ?



    Next time, ask how he’s acquiring samples of the
    normal, year-to-year Flu-Bug—now that we’ve
    been informed, by MSM, how flu cases are down
    98% !

    And what are we to make of all those ”Covid-19”
    deaths by ALL causes: car wrecks, bicycle falls,
    sepsis from skin infections, ingrown toenails, etc. ?

  3. I guess Jungian is asking if the mRNA reprograms our cells at the DNA level? If so, would it get passed on through procreation and/or change every person who got the shot would experience changes but how would that change manifest itself? Would we all become Spiderman!?

  4. Ask him about the lab being shut down in summer and fall 2019, at the time Dr. Bavari left. Did losing its standing in the federally registered materials system result in any lack of audit trails for specimens from his labs?

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