(FORUM) Covid, vaccines and masks


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Question 1: If the vaccines only work when you’re wearing a mask, and if there’s not much Covid around, and if it’s not Delta– do the vaccines work?

Question 2: If you are supposed to wear a mask inside, even if vaccinated, to prevent Covid, which scientists and CDC say is almost never spread outside, then– do the vaccines work?

Question 3: If vaccines and masks aren’t 100%, or close to 100%, effective at preventing Covid, then is requiring them a measure of anything other than compliance?

Question 4: If scientists are correct and most people who get Covid will have mild or no symptoms, and then will have what (so far) is proven to be longer-lasting immunity than those who are vaccinated, does it make sense to require everyone to get vaccinated to travel, attend certain functions or school?

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  1. These are rhetorical questions. All of this nonsense is a combination of authoritarianism and political correctness on steroids. It’s all about control of our lives and our treasure.

  2. First of all, the experimental vaccines do not prevent COVID infections..

    They are designed to reduce COVID symptoms, and hopefully keep infected people out of the hospital.

    The length of time the vaccine antibodies last is unknown.

    The effectiveness of the vaccine on COVID variants is unknown.

    There is strong evidence from Israel and Great Britain that the vaccine will not create long lasting antibodies, as having the disease, and recovering from it, should do.

    In addition, the vaccine has not been very effective against the Delta variant.
    Many people are getting infected with the Delta variant, after getting two injections,
    in Israel and Great Britain.

    Long term adverse effects of the vaccine remain unknown, but short term adverse effects have been unprecedented (bad) in the history of vaccines.

    The COVID virus passes through ordinary masks in both directions.
    N95% masks are obviously NOT N100% masks.
    And unless fitted perfectly to the face, they are not 95% effective.

    If someone is infected, and coughs or sneezes in the direction of a healthy person,
    any mask will reduce the spray distance by some amount.

    A violent cough can spray water vapor over 20 feet.

    However if you are sick enough to be coughing or sneezing,
    you should be staying home.

    And while at home, the last thing a person with a respiratory infection will want to do
    is to wear a mask.

    1. All true except the the N95 does not remove 95% of particles as small as this virus. But, you are right, even it it did, still useless.

      1. Depend on the cough and sneeze, That you are coughing and sneezing could be caused by an allergy like I got. I do cough and sneeze which help remove the congestion. But dry air wrecks it. It dries up my mucus and then I have to clear my nose by “picking” it. I am not and I am not going to be shot with that likey poison. And all the mask rules Drives me nuts. I have very good reasons for not wearing a mask and yet most are no mask, no service. Mask make me cough and sneeze more and increasing make it harder to breathe.

  3. Sharyl and Full Measure Team,

    —By Nutrition Expert, Bill Sardi :

    “A problem with what I write today is
    that the information below, which is
    essential to know to maintain health
    following COVID-19 vaccination, may
    induce more fear and anxiety, which
    is what is driving the pandemic and
    the misdirected decisions over
    COVID-19 vaccination. I’ll explain
    more about this below.” :

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/07/no_author/jab-remorse/

    -Rick

  4. Excellent questions most people would like to know the answers.
    What are the long term safety and side effects of these experimental vaccines?

    1. Hpw about considering what we already know about influenza vaccines?

      They are 40 to 60% effective and you need a booster shot every year.

      The claim that Moderna and Pfizer experimental vaccines are 95% effective and booster shots will not be needed, is very hard to believe.

      The reported adverse short term effects are unprecedented for a vaccine.
      I’m expecting government bureaucrats to arbitrarily “adjust” the numbers lower because they do not support the vaccine is safe narrative.

      With such a high level of adverse short-term effects. it’s probably wishful thinking to expect a small number of adverse long term effects.

  5. Masks have become a virtue signal and compliance symbol. They MAY reduce viral load with a viral encounter. However for those with seasonal allergies they seem to really help with the pollen issue.

    According to ?? ????? ?????????? and other scientists, it’s ill-advised to vaccinate everyone especially DURING a ‘pandemic’. It can create ‘super bugs’. ☼ I wish there was more discussion about this … because it needs to better understood. I’m not a scientist… so really would like to understand HOW that would happen.

    RE: ????? ?????????? — if doctors weren’t being censored for their innovative repurposing of old drugs … developing treatment protocols — many lives would have been saved… a long with the suffering that follows any family member passing… especially unnecessarily. The collusion of government policy makers and media – social and otherwise – to censor EARLY TREATMENT options has been a crime against humanity. [IMHO]

    1. Sylvia Lafferty

      Yes, we need access to HCQ and Ivermectin. I was just gouged by a telemedicine pharmacy for Ivermectin, Buy 20 they are $6.00 a piece, buy 40 they are $5.00 a piece. What a racket! Everyone is getting rich off of Covid Facism.

  6. The government’s narratives do not agree with science most of the time, ie masking and immunizing children. In Oregon it is suggested children unvaccinated should wear masks next school year. Science suggests otherwise.
    Our government only seems to change their stances as other countries findings are widely published. I agree that many lives could have been saved in America, and question Dr Fauci’s leadership in all of this. This is his line of study. Don’t you think he truly knows the best protocol to save lives, yet he has been ridiculous throughout. I agree with Senator Paul in demanding the DOJ to investigate him.

  7. Sadly, one is labeled a conspiracy theorist when one asks the very intelligent questions you pose. The federally funded gaslighting of anyone who questions the safety and efficacy of a vaccine is well known to those of us with vaccine injured children. Thank you Sharyl for your fearless reporting on these issues. You give me hope.

  8. Marc Maximilien Authier

    The CDC takes Americans and the rest of the world for idiots. These people are corrupt and criminal as it gets. Masks are dangerous and to do not work. They are a source of nice things like pneumonia and poisonous fungus infections. And besides that a mask does not stop a virus the size of a few microns. These pseudo scientists should be in prison for what they did, particularly to the kids. The biggest danger however is hypoxia, not enough oxygen going to the brain and carbon dioxide poisoning. In a normal country the CDC would indeed be closed and these people thrown in prison for life !!!!!

  9. Firstly, Ms Attkisson will you please consider engaging in an indepth interview with Reiner Fuellmich.
    Fuellmich has accrued ample evidence and testimony of many scientists, virologists, and doctors that implicates the many stakeholders in what appears to be a bigger crime against humanity than both world wars combined. In terms of the lack of informed consent of an ill-informed public, new revelations are coming out now as adverse reactions(the ones that have been reported: the VAERS tracking program has been shut down) are being tallied with regard to the damage incured by “test subjects” who took the experimental “drug”– An experimental drug that is not defined as a “vaccine”–even though the news media continues to promote this term in an attempt to validate this historic “test subject” event (or perhaps to protect the advertising revenue stream that Pharma provides). Also of note, in accord with Dr Judy’s reports on the Stew Peters show–‘graphene oxide’ has also been in the regular flu vaxx since 2019. For the record–graphene oxide is a very toxic ingredient and the amount in the mRna drug composes over 90% of the jab. RFK, jr is also a reputable and courageous vaccine safety advocate of note and has accrued much evidence over the years of collusion and conflicts of interest between Congress members, the CDC, and Pharma. It is notable that the whistleblowers face increased censorship and silencing on social media platforms.

  10. Masks don’t work. The virus is way to small and can get around those flimsy masks!
    Well, is it really a pandemic or is there a problem with the pcr test? Soo many false positives when folks don’t have any symptoms. WTH?? And, they are still counted in the numbers.!! Asymptomatic transmission is highly unlikely.
    As for the vaccine, it may be good for those with heath issues/elderly. But, if you are healthy, the survival rate is 99.8 % depending on your age, so why vaccine when there are inexpensive pharmaceutical medicine that can cure, such as hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin. It’s a experimental vaccine that can cause a lot of complications,

  11. Early on in 2020 the CDC et al spoke of the virus being transmitted through the moist tissues of the eye in about half of the cases. As you walk through a cloud of Covid 19 carrying cough particles the leaks out the side of a face mask drive these into your eyes. Evidence is the fogging of eyeglasses while wearing a mask.. I have a Omron sintered carbon water filter on the kitchen sink because our water is not as clean as you think and after replacing them the first time you will quit trusting government about what is “clean enough”. The CB3R filter stops everything above 0.5 microns which is about the same as a very good mask, and you cannot draw air with your lungs through it. The label has a specific warning that the CB3R will not filter out viruses. I have worn masks at work to stop dust and the N95’s don’t cut it. We use face fitting cartridge mask to keep out stuff large enough to see.
    Just sayin’……

  12. Cynthia Silveri

    The entire reason for the vaccine is to create a BINARY world–the genetically modified vaxxed beings and the unvaxxed human beings. A simple test will show who is who…it’s very easy to divide, control and conquer in a binary world population, right now there is too much racial, religious and cultural diversity to do things the “old” ways.

  13. The mandate for vaccination is the biggest tell in poker. First, let’s get rid of some of the highest trained professionals and replace them with lesser trained. That might work with Fred Flintstone but when you need brain surgery I think you want the guy or gal that doesn’t want to inject DNA altering solutions that they won’t say what’s in it for 75 years. This weakens our country. This weakens our economy. This is the result of a few who wrongly advised Trump to sign an executive to streamline the vaccine protocol in September of 2019 from using eggs like they have for 70 years to DNA altering MRNA injections that play God. This can change humanity to a new species and water down the spiritual gene pool. Judging by the disgusting news we have already played around too much in a realm we are not qualified to toy in.

  14. The Club Of Rome and the CIA Depopulation Program at Fauci’s Fort Detrick is an article that reveals the source of Nuremberg 2.0. Something I have observed is we all justify our position pointing to our raised consciousness. Say that’s true,when you get a group of elites in a think tank the results might get a bit grandiose. So after it was determined that the planet couldn’t support humanity, it was postulated that depopulation was the solution..Illuminati,Zionist and China plotted a asymmetrical war against the United States. Fauci,Ft. Detrick,HIV,SARS,Covid and Gain of Function. HIV was put in a Hep B vaccine. Given to Africa,New York and San Francisco. Test completed.! NWO in panic mode shipped the vaccine formula to be finalized. Pandemic,stolen election,vaccines ready to go and the sheep line up. Wakening needs to gain speed or like Aus. it’s lights out!

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