(FORUM) Whose information do you trust?


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A lot of Americans have indicated they do not “trust” the information coming from certain government officials or federal health agencies when it comes to Covid-19.

So who do you trust right now?

When there are scientists and medical doctors who are saying opposing things; when there are seemingly contradictory findings from studies and data crunching– what do you believe?

How do you make important decisions amid this crisis in confidence in the information we receive?

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  1. First, I do NOT watch TV. The stuff spewed there is for show. It’s all for show, ratings and to please the masters. Masters being the highest bidder in money or virtual signaling to peers/tribe.
    I read as much as I can from a variety of sources (never the lamestream media).
    I actually read the data behind the “studies”.
    I monitor the “official sites” for raw numbers and do logic tests on their validity. For example, the number of Covid deaths is wildly inaccurate due to the lack of flu deaths recorded over the past year. Flu didn’t just “disappear”, it was coded as Covid to meet the quota for the narrative.
    If I catch someone lying, I tend to disregard everything they say after that.
    How’s that for what one can do?

    1. very similar here: no tv, no ‘lamestream media’, information mostly through the internet, with lots of references, checks & cross checks. but no FB, no twitter (no smart phone).
      reliable, objective, factual news sites/blogs take a while to find (Children’s Health Defense/RFK Jr ranks high, as does Next News Network, Attkisson and Sidney Powell’s newsletter).
      I don’t check raw numbers, but always check the original written source and/or transcript for video’s I see on youtube, rumble, brighteon and others.
      another unique source of information is the comments section, mostly dedicated individuals, trying to add more information, often based on personal experience.
      it takes time to not get distracted by BS story telling, but selecting trusted sources is worth the effort.

    2. Arthur Giambrone

      Good comment since, of course, I agree with you and your approach. I am left with a few podcasts, OANN, Solomon, Tucker (It is a shame he is with Fox), Attkisson, and a few trusted friends that email things that they found true and or interesting.

  2. I will be honest and say that it is very difficult to know what to believe. But I am more likely to put my faith in a source that doesn’t accept money from big pharma or have a political agenda.

    The fact that little to no work has been done – or made public – regarding treatment for Covid with existing and coincidentally inexpensive medications makes me suspicious of the push for the vaccine.

    I try to pull information from non-partisan, unbiased sources where ever I can. It’s not easy and sometimes I rely on myself for detecting bizarre illogical information.

    In my state for example the latest governor’s press conference made a huge point of addressing the rates of Covid in unvaccinated people but their data went back to Jan 2021 when the vaccine was not being administered. So how does that information make sense or tell me anything I need to know to make an informed decision?

  3. As long as there is suppression of opposing views/facts, there is no science. Very important to face this. We are left with that inner sense, or spiritual sense, that tells us what is right and what is wrong. Sorry, but that is the best we got. “Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.” It is not blind, but built on the rock Christ, a good universal God.
    Blind faith is what is supporting vaccines, masking, social distancing, and it allows for the wicked intent to manipulate. There is not a modicum of science in any of it.

  4. Thank you for asking!
    I recently learned that my gallbladder staples place twenty years ago were never safety tested. Then I learned from other sick women that their breast implant were making them sick. And so we’re mine. Then I learned from a patient advocacy website that Gadolinum gave me fibromyalgia. Then the producer of the documentary, that I was in, explained that fluroquinolone antibiotics are also giving people fibromyalgia. And that anti depressants and anti anxiety meds cause suicidal ideation and violence.
    There are lies, damn lies, statistics and then there is the FDA, CDC, NIH stats.
    Robert F Kennedy is speaking the truth w Bigtree and Mercola.
    And there is you. Blessings to you snd your team.
    Crystal Anderson

    1. Crystal, I couldn’t have said it better. I try not to listen to the legacy, alphabet media. First it raises my blood pressure; second, none of them tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Finding news sources who just give the facts is difficult sometimes. So far, I agree with all who have posted this far.

    2. I second you on Robert F Kennedy and Del Bigtree. I know they usually focus on information that supports their position but I believe they are careful and thoughtful about everything that they present. Robert Kennedy has been wrestling corruption most of his career and I have great admiration for him!

  5. I trust the following:
    FLCCC
    Americas Frontline Doctors
    Dr. Malone
    Dr. McCullough
    Other highly respected medical doctors and scientists who are speaking out at great risk to themselves with no financial incentives
    Sharyl Attkisson
    RFK Jr.

    1. I agree with this list. Thanks for writing it out. The people who stick up for their views regardless of being called all sorts of names by the MSM show that they’re really in it for the truth. Also, I like Bret Weinstein and his Dark Horse Podcast (found on Odysee now), especially the episode with Dr. Malone, who you mentioned.

    2. Perfect answer! 90% of the Mainstream Media in both print and television long ago destroyed their credibility. The curious have to find their own trusted sources IF they have the curiosity and time to do, which, unfortunately most do not. And that’s what the MSM count on. A larger question for knowledgeable, informed Americans is WHAT government institution you CAN trust anymore? FBI? CIA? Congress? CDC? White House? When an increasingly majority of citizens cannot trust their public institutions wither the Republic then my friends…?

    3. Agree America’s Frontline Doctors, Sharyl’s excellent independent reporting. I foresee a dramatic loss of public trust in MOST “authorities.” As the lies and corruption surrounding Education (including Universities), all levels of Government, Healthcare Systems, Pharmaceutical Industry, Big Agra, Judicial Systems, Press, Sports, Entertainment (Film/Music) are revealed, the inevitable shock will come. There will be massive minds blown. With God’s help we will get through it. In the meantime, Hang On!

  6. Sandra Gail Gildroy

    Catherine Austin Fitts, Robert Kennedy, jr with staff at children’s health defense, Sharyl Attkisson, Del Bigtree, Dr Mercola, Quite Frankly. I trust few others. There are a few doctors and scientists who have been outspoken, written documents or articles that I trust. Government…NO! Pharma…NO! Fauci? Hell NO!

  7. Look at trustworthy statistics of death rates for the past ten years. Look at ages greater than 55. You will see steady increase in death rates for flu. The rates are logical and rational when you consider the baby-boomer generation getting older.

    Prior to the planned Wuhan “pandemic”, one could get somewhat “real” statistics from the CDC. Now, the CDC is combining counts so you cannot distinguish between illnesses. To get real statistics, you will have to find a state source that has not been compromised.

    We are being played by a few in power in the government.

  8. If Government (politicians, CDC, FDA) or main stream media (including FOX) says something, assume it is a lie and do the opposite.

    I find various telegram feeds are useful. Read anything from Mercola or his wife (Erin Eizabeth), Dr Tenpenny, Dr Northrupp, Dr Madej, Kelly Brogan, Sayer Ji, some of the less hysterical stuff from the Health Ranger plus Doug Billings interviews, RFK Jr, etc, Some stuff from functional medicine docs like Dr Hyman, Dr Tom OBrien.

    Biggest thing is to not take anything at face value. Think critically, does it make sense? Who stands to make money from it? Does it fit with your other sources? Is it just parrotting other sources? Is it based on data? Can you check the source? Does the source make sense? Is the analysis statistically reasonable? Erc. Etc

  9. Crystal, I couldn’t have said it better. I try not to listen to the legacy, alphabet media. First it raises my blood pressure; second, none of them tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Finding news sources who just give the facts is difficult sometimes. So far, I agree with all who have posted this far.

  10. When I see their mouth moving …..Thats usually a lie …..When you hear the said government worker owns stock in the pharmaceutical they say has to be used ……When I say Joe Biden get tye jab ..the cap was on the needle ……When I heard fa few Countries had refused the cure …the heads of these countries were killed ……When this is 99.9% curable you wonder what sane people are thinking …….I am waiting for the burning at the steak or hanging from the tree to start …….We should be asking the federal government why these undocumented people are spread …at tax payers dime to every state without testing , papers , etc etc ….We apparently have become dumb and deaf and blind ……I guess the Republicans are in on all this too …..PeopleFreedom isn’t free but it looks like the Cell Phones and Tablets are more important than life itself ……

  11. If someone from the Govt. or a host on TV told me the sun would be out at high noon I would have to go out and see for myself .

  12. I don’t trust anyone until I have reason to believe they are trustworthy. When I try out a news source, I do what I can to verify their story.

    I don’t believe anything from CDC. They still pretend masks prevent transmission of a virus!

    I trust Sharyl.

  13. When nobody is ever held accountable, that’s who you trust. Nobody.
    The Fourth Estate has failed miserably in its primary function as watchdog. They themselves are not held accountable for deliberately misleading, unsourced, and/or outright false reports. No consequences for dismal performance or unethical behavior. Legacy media is just a propaganda mill for sale to the “highest bidder”. R.I.P. Fourth Estate.
    There’s a small handful of public individuals I believe are genuinely trying to find and tell the facts without editorializing. You may recall, we called them journalists and their only agenda was telling their readers/listeners the truth.
    Obviously, Ms. Attkisson is on that very short list.

  14. Thats the 64 dollar question! The internet world, the major television networks, the government network all talking and all saying different things.
    It’s blatantly obvious the major networks, most likely with government backing or prodding, to broadcast almost every night some person in a hospital bed proclaiming how they wished they had gotten a jab. The message telling everyone see this is what happens when you don’t take the experimental vaccine. The message that all other methods are not scientifically safe to fight covid19 but only those who make the covid19 vaccine are all safe. Such is the world we live in now.
    What’s true, what’s false, what’s right, what’s wrong, what’s good, what’s bad.

  15. I have been listening to Ron Paul and his crew at the Liberty Report. I can believe John Stossel, since I was a lad I felt he was truthful. I listen and read Sharyl Attkisson’s unbiased reports. Reason puts out good info. I think these sources connect you with other legitimate sources. I think RT puts out better info than any US MSM outlet, but I can’t trust them 100% either. I am more likely to believe Alex Jones before any US government report or any Statist that wants to pass a law that gives me more security. And as others have said here GOD is the answer!

  16. We have been told to wear masks. My area of the country has been smothered in smoke from Canadian wildfires. When officials were asked if wearing a mask would help with the smoke inhalation we were told, “No, masks are ineffective against the smoke.” So, if masks are ineffective against smoke, how in the hell can they be effective against a virus?! Trust government, CDC, media propagandists? I think NOT!!

  17. “So who do you trust right now?”
    No one really. Especially when it’s from a government official.
    It’s been well known for a while now that besides the elderly this virus seems to do the most harm to those who are over weight and not in good physical shape. It’s just a fact and I have personal examples of friends that were in that camp that either died or had a really tough time with it. Yet I have not heard from even one health official that you should try to lose some weight and get in better shape to try to save yourself. Maybe I missed it but I don’t think so and there has been plenty of time since the start of this that many could have lost a lot of extra lbs.
    Same on supplements such as vitamin D and others. It most likely helps but certainly doesn’t hurt so why no mention of it from any official.
    And why does the CDC keep insisting that people who have recovered from the virus still get vaccinated? I recovered from what I would call a mild case and there is no way I’m going to let them inject more of it into me. Based on what I was taught it doesn’t make any sense. They don’t even want you to get a test to see if you have antibodies or T cells before you get vaccinated and just want you to get the shots. Again, makes no sense.
    The other thing that really makes me angry is my own Dr. says I should not take the vax and should just wait and see how it goes. My own Dr said that. I can’t share that information publicly using my real name as I know the left will find out who he is and will go after him for saying that. I don’t wish that on anyone.
    Bottom line: I go with my gut on a lot of information I receive and just go about my days.

  18. Haven’t watched/listened to the mainstream screed in over 20 years. For the truth in news I watch The HighWire on Thursdays & Church Militant evening news. We read the New Oxford Review, Chronicles, The Remnant, & the Epoch Times.

  19. I trust your information Ms attkisson you tell the truth you report both sides of a story and you have no anginda thank you for fair and honest reporting wish all reporters were like you

  20. I trust those who have a history of being right: Logan, Atkisson, York
    I trust those who own up when they make a mistake.
    I trust those who explain their positions clearly and without obfuscation or appeal to authority, e.g., Peterson, B Weinstein, even if I don’t agree with them in all things.

    I do not trust those with a history of being wrong, e.g., Ehrlich, Holdren, Hanson, Fauci and many more.
    I do not trust those who hide their data, e.g., scientific advisors to the FDA, tobacco researchers
    I do not trust those who manipulate their data in non-transparent ways, e.g., NOAA, NASA, UK Met
    I do not trust those who use the courts and the media to suppress contrary opinion: Michael Mann, NEA.

  21. I think Steve nailed it. It’s easier to list who I don’t trust than who I do trust. Once I am lied to or only given partial information with the intent to mislead, that source is done, which on the topic of covid19 seems to be almost everyone. I trust you, Sharyl, you seem to give information straight up. Lara Logan as well seems pretty much a straight shooter.

  22. Unfortunately many people stopped (unironically) answering this question years ago.
    I will only say that any sources listed here with any degree of influence will get targeted by smears, shills, trolls and possibly cyber-attacks. Virtually every source I use experiences this. Oftentimes they will come onto places like 4chan and ask this question. Not long after, the attacks start.
    We aren’t in Kansas anymore.
    Haven’t been since at least Trumps campaign.

  23. If they were shut down by You Tube, Google, FaceBook or Twitter then those are the people I want to hear from.

    FLCCC
    Bret Weinstein
    Dr McCullough
    Dr Geert Vanden Bossche
    Dr Robert Malone
    Dr Mercola

    Most Definitely NOT the CDC, WHO, NIH, NIAID and most of all NOT Dr. FRANKENSTEIN-FAUCI. Dr Fauci to me has been continuing the work of the American Eugenics Society (AES) 1922-1972 as Americans we thought this despicable group of cohorts had been shut down for good. Instead they rebranded The Society changed its name in 1972 to Society for the Study of Social Biology; and again in 2008 to Society of Biodemography and Social Biology. https://ahrp.org/1913-u-s-eugenics-research-association/

  24. Folks Ive got news from the other side. My husband and I are in the 8th day at hospital. We bioth have covid and he has double pneumonia. We dont know where we got it but please take this seriously. We both took hcq and overmectin and supplements. I dont have as bad an infection as he doesbut its been really really bad. The hospitals here are absolutely overrun. Please please take it seriously. Ive never been this sick in 68 years and neither has my husband.

  25. Sharyl and Full Measure Team,

    The Rabbis Know :

    =====
    ©1999

    PATRICK BUCHANAN KEEPS the CIVIL CENTER

    For those of you over forty years of age, have you noticed how the idea “center” ((or “moderate”)) keeps shifting leftward towards decadence [[ see Rep. Michael Forbes’ rant against Republican “extremists,” as he leaves the GOP for the “moderate” Democrat Party: “Rep. Forbes assails GOP,” Washington Times, p. C3, July 18 ]]?

    The political/social c e n t e r in the Fifties has become “right-wing extremism” in the Nineties, as the nation radically has moved leftward. And one of my favorite columnists, Charles Krauthammer, tries to defend today’s evil c e n t e r by calling rightists “wing-nuts,” and while leftists define today’s low-culture hedonism as the “moderate” position to uphold [[ “W. Owes Popularity to Political Twist,” Richmond Times-Dispatch, July 18, 1999 ]].

    If you could transport an American citizen living in, say, Los Angeles during the Fifties to the L.A. of the Nineties, he/she would think the nation had gone mad, had become very unsafe—very uncivil for families and communities, much like decadent Rome’s decline. And if you could transport a Nineties person to the Fifties, he/she would think America boring – if being entertained requires taking drugs and ingesting 4 hours of TV each day – but far more safe and civilized.

    To understand why the definition of “center” is shifting leftward is to understand the feminist mind’s need for chaos, for the e-m-o-t-i-o-n-a-l stimulation that c h a o s brings—is to understand the masculinist mind’s weakness for seduction (( the Eve syndrome )) while needing order and the emotional/physical security it provides.

    How do we define the term “civilized” or “gentleman” or “lady” in the Nineties? Don’t those terms appear to be useless today? Does anyone use them anymore?

    How were they defined in the 1950s, 1850s, or 1750s?

    Readers familiar with my scribblings know that, for me, all political and social conflicts can be reduced to that never-ending battle between mother and father (( feminine and masculine ))—between what I’ve termed “emoting feminine mind” and “rational masculine mind,” as they each correspond to one of the two hemispheres of the human brain (( left-hemisphere masculine defining the political right and right-hemisphere feminine defining the political left; keep in mind cross-lateralization, where the left hemisphere controls the right side of the body and right hemisphere the left )).

    Readers also know that I believe civilizations rise and fall according to which hemisphere predominates. It appears that the dominance of one or the other is generationally cyclical (( to either build or destroy civil societies )) and millennially cyclical (( to either build or destroy entire civilizations )). The masculine side (( logical )) builds high-culture civilization and the feminine side (( emotional )) destroys it (( An example is ancient Greece, where at its cultural heights it eschewed emotion for facts and logic and, then, declined as Greek theater and Greek tragedy – the rise of feminism and feminine arts – shifted the balance leftward towards the emotional. Ancient Rome suffered the same fate, as do present-day Western democracies under growing feminism )).

    Let’s all agree that the term “center” ought to be defined as high-culture civilization.

    But what defines “high culture” in today’s America?:

    1. Is it the broken families; is it the broken communities that tyrannical government effected through forced integration of blacks into them; is it the broken schools that tyrannical government effected through forced busing of blacks into them; is it the kids killing kids on the streets and in schools; is it the Hollywood films and African-based rap, gangsta-rap and hip-hop driving the killings; is it the teen-age girls and boys fornicating to spread diseases and have babies; is it teen girls’ now-lawful acquisition of abortions without parental knowledge or consent; is it the “partial birth” infanticides; is it those human slaughterhouses, built to remedy “accidents” from one-night stands and rampant hedonism; is it the AIDS-spreading gay bathhouses sanctioned by “civil” governments; is it the XXX pornography that has gone mainstream, in schools and homes and stores; is it those grade-schoolers having oral sex to avoid having “sex”; is it the borderless “nation” and its unbridled immigration, destroying white Western civilization in America; is it the idea “consumership” replacing the idea “citizenship,” and “New World Order” replacing “sovereignty”; is it White House orgies and the “no big deal” attitude of the hedonist majority; is it the vulgarities replacing honor and moral virtue in both citizenry and statesmen; is it homosexuality as normalcy and heterosexuality as “rape”; is it the American Psychological Association trying to mainstream pedophilia and fatherless homes; is it the American Library Association trying to peddle pornography to children in public libraries; is it the . . . ?

    And the list goes on and on and on to prove how decadent we’ve become through LEFTISM’s (( liberals’/libertines’ )) liberalism.

    How do Charles Krauthammer and other “centrists” define “high-culture civilization”?

    Who’s really nuts?

    Emoting feminist mind is evil. She
    rants until she gets her way, then
    she calls the newly established
    decadence “centrist” or “moderate”–
    then she rants again, and the rational
    masculinist mind retreats again to shift
    the center further leftward until,
    inevitably, we all find ourselves at
    dead center of a dying civilization
    (( read a world history book! )).

    Patrick Buchanan, Senator Robert Smith and other conservatives best represent the high-culture values that conceived and built the greatest civilization in history while reckless leftists raise up lechers and whores, not gentlemen and ladies.

    But who cares, so long as we’re all having fun in a nation eyebrow deep in the feminists’ doo-doo-driven, leftward-shifting “center”?

    -Rick

    1. P.S.

      Oops!

      I’’ve posted wrong article.

      -shall post it – rabbi’s list of 31 reasons not to take the shot – somewhere else on your page, later.

  26. I trust when people say they have or had covid and they suffered like EC says. Also when she says the hospitals are overrun. I believe her before any government official or mainstream media source. I DO believe there is a virus, I just believe there is no way, short of living in a bubble to prevent its spread. I think some people will suffer terribly from the virus while others wont, much like any other virus. That’s just the way life is.

    I trust people with the guts to ponder whether the virus was intentional or a lab accident instead of the narrative we are told to believe. I’m honest enough to say I dont know. But to not allow any discussion other than the acceptable narrative is what makes me suspicious. When theories and questions are crushed and removed from the community discussion, rather than the intellectual argument to prove the narrative we are told to follow, this makes me not trust that narrative. Truth can stand on its own without having to disappear so-called falsehoods.

    I trust people with the guts to ask of democrats (and a lot of so-called “republicans”), “how did vaccines that were labeled “Trump’s deadly rushed vaccines” suddenly become mandatory medicine on January 20th?”. Anyone who pays attention and remembers things should be asking this question. I also distinctly remember Fauci at the onset of this plandemic telling the viewing public that cloth and paper masks are useless against a virus. I remember this distinctly because I always have N95 masks for seasonal allergy when mowing grass. I was torn with whether I should donate them or keep them for my own safety…Fauci and others all told us only the N95 or finer particulate respirators are effective against a virus. Yet we all live in a world of face pamper theater.

    We are living in a world of lies and theater. I dont think we’ve been living in a republic at all, possibly from the founding. I used to carry my pocket constitution proudly. Sadly it’s all been a “Truman Show”, or has become one…

  27. I havwen’t owned a Tv for many years.I listen to radio and use the internet.Fox is sill sometimes conservative,but has leaned left since Murdocks sons took over its operation. I don’t really trust any source without as much verification as I can get.Fauchis first public lie was told to keep,US citizens from buying all the masks hospitals needed,because they hadn’t rotated and kept up stock as they are required to do..No one was punished trere either.

  28. I cut the cord back in 08′ before it was common lexicon.
    I used to listen to NPR everyday, morning to night.
    After 2016, I switched them off. Their hyper-Left turn wokeness was nauseating, even for them.
    Since then, a lot of alt-media. And that does not mean right-wing as most automatically associate alt-media with right-wing such as OANN, I just had to look them up to make sure I was calling them by the right name.
    Miss Attkisson, Greenwald, Taibbi, Weiss, Charles H. Smith, Turley, Snyder and more.
    Do I agree with everything they say? Of course not. I read what they say, make my own analysis and draw my own conclusions.
    It was Mr. Charles H. Smith that brought to my attention that 90% of media is owned by just 6 corporations. 5 are left leaning. The 6th is Fox. Yet many Americans accuse Fox of bias and misinformation or disinformation. Disclaimer: I do not watch Fox, see the above cord cutting, or go to their web site for news. I would argue all 6 to include NPR are guilty of misinformation or disinformation.

    As Miss Attkisson says, “Think for yourself.”

    To Miss Attkisson, keep up the good work. Fight the good fight. I recommend your site as much as I can.
    Cheers!

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