The following is related to the Sharyl Attkisson podcast with Dr. Martin Makary. Podcast link here.
Dr. Martin Makary is a well-known and respected surgeon, professor, author and medical commentator. He practices surgical oncology and gastrointestinal laparoscopic surgery at Johns Hopkins Hospital. He is the Chair in Gastrointestinal Surgery at Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, and teaches public health policy as Professor of Surgery and Public Health at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.
Dr. Makary has published over 250 scientific articles on the re-design of health care, medical innovation, and health equity. His current research focuses on health care transparency and the re-design of health care. His latest book is the The Price We Pay, which earned him the 2020 Business Book of the Year Award.
During the Covid-19 pandemic, Makary has been smeared by some public health officials and propagandists who say he should not be making public health recommendations "beyond his area of expertise."
However, many scientists and doctors agree with Makary's critiques of how the US health system has mishandled the Covid crisis. Makary opposes vaccine mandates for naturally immune individuals, and openly questions government-driven public health policies put into place by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC).
The following is an excerpt from the podcast with Makary discussing "group think" in medicine and Covid natural immunity.
A huge problem in medicine, it's what we call the establishment, or now known as what we call "group think" in medicine. Look, many of us have been up against the establishment our entire careers, if you look at the 300 or so research articles I have put out there, most have been trying to challenge the dogma that we have in medicine around this paternalism.
What you are describing is paternalism - 'oh, they are too stupid - they can't understand the nuances that natural immunity is actually effective' - it might detract from those who get vaccinated because maybe some think they have natural immunity and they really don't because it's never been confirmed.
So they're too stupid, so let's tell everybody you have to get vaccinated and ignore those who already have circulating antibodies that work to neutralize the virus. Ironically, they have antibodies that neutralize the virus, but they are antibodies the government doesn't recognize; the establishment does not recognize.
Most of the world has recognized natural immunity, so if you have had Covid and were sick and recovered you've got circulating antibodies, over 99% certain you've got circulating antibodies - that's research from my own Johns Hopkins' research team- and their durable for a good two years because we've only been able to study them two years, that's as long as Covid has been around.
The other hot cornaviruses, that cause severe illness, SARS and MERS, and there's only been three ever, SARS, MERS and Covid, they give long lasting, life-long, we think, immunity. They've been studied long term.
So the idea that the starting hypothesis was that natural immunity didn't work, was the wrong hypothesis. They should have started with the hypothesis that it is effective and durable, until proven otherwise. And because they picked the wrong hypothesis and because they are political, let's be honest, they dug in hard, into their positions.
And as the data began to emerge, it was very clear over time, natural immunity was more effective, not just as effective, more effective. What they did is went into this deep denial and really entrenched in their policies, that we just cannot recognize that - everyone has to get vaccinated.
Well, it turns out if you have natural immunity many of us doctors were recommending you don't have to get the vaccine, we may recommend one dose, you certainly don't need a booster, even a second dose is questionable.
In young healthy men, the rate of myocarditis can be 1 in 2000 people from the vaccine, which has now proven to be higher than the rate of myocarditis from Covid itself, that's in in Nature Medicine journal.
So all of this conversation was really suppressed, because this edict from on high to vaccinate America- and if you start getting into the nuances, or you start getting precise about natural immunity; then that could detract from the broader simple messaging.
Many public health officials I talked to privately said, 'Look Marty we gotta keep the message really streamline, vey simple, vaccinate everybody.' Two doses, maybe three , it quickly switched to three, with really zero evidence that boosters do anything clinically in people under 30 who are healthy - there is zero support. FDA authorized that by bypassing their own external expert advisory committee, they did not convene them for that vote, which is very unusual.
People are seeing through this...they are saying 'Hey, wait a minute!'
So if you look at what we did to workers, truck drivers, soldiers - dishonorably discharged because they had circulating antibodies from natural immunity, but they were not antibodies that the government recognized - that was as anti-science of a crime, as there has ever been. They have been treated very badly and they should be reinstated with an apology.Dr. Martin Makary