Covid-19 natural immunity compared to vaccine-induced immunity: The definitive summary


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Update March 11, 2022 with longest observational study yet showing long lasting natural immune response

Update Jan. 14, 2022 with fully vaccinated surpassing vaccinated in Australian hospitals

Update Dec. 16 with most Omicron Covid US cases reported among vaccinated

Update Dec. 12 with Israel study and study on higher vaccine side effects when given to those who already recovered

Update Dec. 5 with Danish data on natural immunity more effective than vaccine immunity

Update Dec. 1 with Qatar study on rarity of serious reinfection

Update Nov. 7 with US study finding dramatically waning vaccine effectiveness

Updated Oct. 30 with UK data showing no difference between viral load/spread in vaccinated and unvaccinated

Updated Oct. 29 with Israel data showing vaccine immunity wore off in just a few months in all age groups

Updated Oct. 13 with UK info showing waning vaccine effectiveness after 3-4 months

Updated Oct. 3 with Finnish study showing antibodies after Covid-19 infection persist for a long time

Updated Sept. 12 with CDC-funded study finding U.S. population reached what some experts said is “herd immunity” levels last May. Also, updated CDC number of fully-vaccinated hospitalizations and deaths with Covid.

Updated Sept. 8 with new study in Science Transitional Medicine and recommended spacing of Covid-19 RNA shots due to declining effectiveness and lack of effectiveness of vaccine mandates

Updated Aug. 27 with large Israel study that finds dramatically better protection from natural immunity than vaccination

Updated Aug. 24 with Israel changing policies with recognition that the Pfizer vaccine allegedly wears off after several months.

Updated Aug. 6 with CDC analysis of Kentucky (unvaccinated Kentuckians had “2.34 times the odds of reinfection” compared with fully vaccinated) and national analysis in Israel (vaccinated Israelis were 6.72 times more likely to get infected after the shot than after natural infection). More below.

Important note: Scientists say antibody tests are not the only way to measure a person’s immunity; some people who have fought off Covid-19, either with or without symptoms, and have immunity will not have measurable antibodies in their systems. Therefore, a negative antibody test should not be considered proof of lack of immunity.

The Natural Immunity Factor

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) became one of the latest high-profile figures to get sick with Covid-19, even though he’s fully vaccinated. In a statement Monday, Graham said it feels like he has “the flu,” but is “certain” he would be worse if he hadn’t been vaccinated.

While it’s impossible to know whether that’s the case, public health officials are grappling with the reality of an increasing number of fully-vaccinated Americans coming down with Covid-19 infections, getting hospitalized, and even dying of Covid. The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) insists vaccination is still the best course for every eligible American. But many are asking if they have better immunity after they’re infected with the virus and recover, than if they’re vaccinated.

Increasingly, the answer within the data appears to be ”yes.”

141 Research Studies Affirm Naturally Acquired Immunity to Covid-19: Documented, Linked, and Quoted

Update: March 11, 2022: The longest observational study yet finds persistent immunity 18 months after natural infection, which beats out two-dose vaccine immunity.

Why does CDC seem to be “ignoring” natural immunity?

In fact, some medical experts have said they’re confounded by public health officials’ failure to factor natural and virus-acquired immunity into the Covid equation. Public and media narratives often press the necessity of “vaccination for all,” chiding states where vaccination rates are lowest. And they use vaccination rates and Covid case counts as inverse indicators of how safe it is in a particular state: high vaccination rate = high safety; high case counts = low safety (they claim).

However, vaccination rates alone tell little about a population’s true immune-status. And where high Covid case counts occur, it ultimately means a larger segment of that community ends up better-protected, vaccines aside. That’s according to virologists who point out that fighting off Covid, even without developing any symptoms, leaves people with what’s thought to be more robust and longer-lasting immunity than the vaccines confer.

The vaccine immunity problem

Hard data counters widespread public misinformation that claimed “virtually all” patients hospitalized and dying of Covid-19 are unvaccinated. Pfizer and Moderna had claimed their vaccines were “100% effective” at preventing serious illness. Many in the media even popularized a propaganda phrase designed to push more people to get vaccinated: “pandemic of the unvaccinated.” 

Not so, say CDC and other data.

Listen to podcast with Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, who addresses the strength of natural immunity

Recent CDC data found that 74% of those who tested positive for Covid-19 in a Massachusetts analysis had been fully-vaccinated. Equally as troubling for those advocating vaccination-for-all: four out of five people hospitalized with Covid were fully-vaccinated. And CDC said “viral load” — indicating how able the human host is to spread Covid-19 — is about the same among the vaccinated and unvaccinated. Contrary to the infamous misinformation by CDC Director Rochelle Walensky last May, vaccinated people can— and are— spreading Covid. (CDC officials later corrected Walensky’s false claim.)

Below: CDC’s data with light blue showing fully vaccinated. Dark blue is unvaccinated (but may include some fully vaccinated.)

CDC’s newest findings on so-called “breakthrough” infections in vaccinated people are mirrored by other data releases.

Illinois health officials recently announced more than 160 fully-vaccinated people have died of Covid-19, and at least 644 been hospitalized; ten deaths and 51 hospitalizations counted in the prior week. Israel’s Health Ministry recently said effectiveness of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine has fallen to 40 percent. Last month, 100 vaccinated British sailors isolated on a ship at sea reportedly came down with Covid seven weeks into their deployment. In July, New Jersey reported 49 fully vaccinated residents had died of Covid; 27 in Louisiana; 80 in Massachusetts. In Iceland there is a spike in cases, mostly among the vaccinated, among a highly-vaccinated population that had previously claimed to have defeated Covid-19. Of 116 cases diagnosed in one day, 73 were among the vaccinated; 43 were unvaccinated.

Nationally, as of July 12, CDC said it was aware of more than 4,400 people who got Covid-19 after being fully vaccinated and had to be hospitalized; and 1,063 fully vaccinated people who died of Covid. But health officials still argue that vaccinated people make up only a small fraction of the seriously ill. Critics counter that CDC’s recent Massachusetts data calls that into question. 

Update Jan. 14, 2022: Data published in Australia shows the number of fully vaccinated Australians In the hospital with Covid-19 surpassed the number of hospitalized who are unvaccinated. “The number of double-dose vaccinated patients in intensive care units (ICUs) also surpassed those of the unvaccinated, with 50.3% of the vaccinated presenting to ICU with COVID-19, more than the 49.1% who are unvaccinated.”

Update Dec. 16, 2021: As Omicron hits U.S., most initial cases are reported among vaccinated. “Officials disclosed the vaccination status of 66 of the infected individuals. Of those, the vast majority, or 52, were fully vaccinated. Some had even gotten booster shots.”

Update Dec. 12, 2021: Israel study Covid-19 infections and severe disease were higher among the vaccinated than those who recovered from the illness. The naturally immune had a 10.5 per 100,000 infection rate 4-6 mos. following recovery, vs a 69.2 per 100,000 rate among vaccinated. The number of severe cases was also higher among the vaccinated: 0.9 percent of all cases among that group were severe, compared with 0.5 percent of cases among the recovered.Researchers found that protection against infection dropped over time among both the recovered and vaccinated, but the drop was more pronounced among the vaccinated.

Update Dec. 12, 2021: A study finds those who previously had Covid and then get vaccinated may be at higher risk of adverse events from vaccine.

Update Dec. 5, 2021: Danish data indicates previously-infected are two times less likely to be identified as Covid-positive than fully-vaccinated.

Update Dec. 1, 2021: A study from Qatar finds death from reinfection after people have had one case of Covid is unheard of. “None led to hospitalization in an ICU, and none ended in death. Reinfections were rare and were generally mild, perhaps because of the primed immune system after primary infection.”

Update Sept. 7, 2021: CDC said it was aware of 2,675 fully vaccinated people who got Covid and died, and 11,440 more who were hospitalized with Covid for a total of 14,115, a small fraction of the seriously ill.

Update August 6, 2021: CDC has released a small analysis in Kentucky and indicated that it’s proof that vaccines are more effective than natural immunity. Read the analysis here. According to CDC, among the reinfected sample, 20% had been fully vaccinated. Among those who had Covid and were not later reinfected, 66% were unvaccinated. “Kentucky residents who were not vaccinated had 2.34 times the odds of reinfection compared with those who were fully vaccinated.”

Update August 6, 2021: In Israel, more than 7,700 new cases of the virus have been detected during the most recent wave starting in May, but just 72 of the confirmed cases were reported in people who were known to have been infected previously – that is, less than 1% of the new cases. Roughly 40% of new cases – or more than 3,000 patients – involved people who had been infected despite being vaccinated. By contrast, Israelis who were vaccinated were 6.72 times more likely to get infected after the shot than after natural infection, with over 3,000 of the 5,193,499, or 0.0578%, of Israelis who were vaccinated getting infected in the latest wave.

https://sharylattkisson.com/2021/08/report-israel-vaccination-provides-far-less-protection-than-previous-covid-infection/

Update August 27, 2021: A large study in Israel finds natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization for the Delta variant of Coronavirus compared to two-doses of Pfizer vaccine.

According to the study, after three months, risk of infection was 13.06 times higher among vaccinated patients and they were 27 times more likely to experience symptoms than unvaccinated people who’d had Covid previously.

Participants who were double jabbed were 5.96 times more likely to be infected and 7.13 times more likely to experience symptoms including cough, fever and shortness of breath.

Read the study here

Update Oct. 29, 2021: Israeli researchers find “Immunity against the Delta variant from Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine waned after a few months across age groups.”

Update Oct. 30, 2021: A UK study finds “fully vaccinated individuals with breakthrough infections have peak viral load similar to unvaccinated cases and can efficiently transmit infection in household settings,” “peak viral load did not differ by vaccination status or variant type” and “Household Secondary Attack Rate for delta infection, regardless of vaccination status, was 26%.”

Update Nov. 7, 2021: A U.S. study finds after 6 mos. Moderna vaccine effectiveness drops to 60%. Pfizer drops to 49%. J&J drops to 13%. Last yr, FDA’s Dr. Hahn said FDA wouldn’t authorize vaccines that weren’t at least 50% effective.

The bright side of recovering from Covid-19

But there’s promising news to be found within natural and acquired immunity statistics, according to virologists. As of May 29, CDC estimated more than 120 million Americans— more than one in three— had already battled Covid. While an estimated six-tenths of one-percent died, the other 99.4% of those infected survived with a presumed immune status that appears to be superior to that which comes with vaccination.

If doctors could routinely test to confirm who has fought off and become immune to Covid-19, it would eliminate the practical need or rationale for those protected millions to get vaccinated. It would also allow them to avoid even the slight risk of serious vaccine side effects.

Read more about Israel cases here

Unfortunately, virologists say no commonly-used test can detect with certainty whether a person is immune. A common misconception is that antibody tests can make that determination. But experts say immunity after infection or exposure often comes without a person producing or maintaining measurable antibodies.

Because of that reality, people who have had asymptomatic infections — infections where they suffered no symptoms — have no easy way to know that they’re immune. However, a growing body of evidence indicates that the millions who know they got Covid can be assured they’re unlikely to suffer reinfection, for at least as long of a time period that scientists have been able to measure. Possibly far beyond.

Update Aug. 24, 2021: With evidence of seriously-waning immunity at the five- to six-month mark, CDC is now recommending a third “booster” shot. In highly-vaccinated Israel, recognition that vaccination likely does not confer protection beyond a few months, the country has reimagined its vaccine passports. They will only apply to people who have had three shots, and only be good for a six month period of time. So far, the U.S. government has only adopted the third booster recommendation for certain individuals.

Update Sept. 8, 2021: Due to the waning immunity of Covid-19 vaccines, scientists are considering spacing out the two shots longer. They theorize that giving them as close together as they did was a mistake because the two shot regimen “acted as one shot” in terms of immunity. Other countries have already added additional weeks of spacing between the two Pfizer and Moderna shots.

Update Sept. 8, 2021: A study in Science Transitional Medicine finds natural infection may provide more powerful protection than double dose Covid-19 vaccination.

Update Sept. 12, 2021: A CDC-funded study finds the U.S. population reached a combined 83% natural infection and vaccine-induced immunity in May, 2021. That would mean the percentage is substantially higher today and beyond what many scientists said was necessary to achieve “herd immunity.”

Update Oct. 3, 2021: A Finnish study of Covid-19 recovered patients that looked as far as 13 months after infection finds “protection against re-infection is long-lived, although antibody-mediated immunity may not persist equally well among elderly subjects.” Federal scientists have previously found that flu shots are ineffective in the elderly due to immune issues. As more of the elderly got flu shots over the years, more of them died rather than the other way around, according to the definitive government study.

Updated Oct. 13, 2021: Data from the UK finds vaccines are “highly effective,” but effectiveness wanes after as little as 3-4 months.

The immunity-after-Covid-infection studies

The following are some of the data and studies relevant to immunity acquired after Covid infection.

Long-Term Persistence of IgG Antibodies in recovered COVID-19 individuals at 18 months and the impact of two-dose BNT162b2 (Pfizer-BioNTech) mRNA vaccination on the antibody response, March 11, 2022

This is the longest observational study yet, finding persistent immunity among naturally infected 18-months later, outperforming two-dose vaccine immunity.

141 Research Studies Affirm Naturally Acquired Immunity to Covid-19: Documented, Linked, and Quoted

Epidemologist Dr. Paul Alexander has compiled this list.

Protection and waning of natural and hybrid COVID-19 immunity

This study from Israel shows vaccinated people were twice as likely as unvaccinated, previously-infected to get a serious Covid case and were six times more likely to get Covid.

Severity of SARS-CoV-2 Reinfections as Compared with Primary Infections, Nov. 24, 2021

This study finds death among those reinfected with Covid is unheard of. “None led to hospitalization in an ICU, and none ended in death. Reinfections were rare and were generally mild, perhaps because of the primed immune system after primary infection.”

Community transmission and viral load kinetics of the SARS Co-V2 B.1.617.2 variant in vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals in the UK: a prospective, longitudinal, cohort study, Oct. 28, 2021

This study finds “Household Secondary Attack Rate for delta infection, regardless of vaccination status, was 26%” and “peak viral load did not differ by vaccination status.”

Waning Immunity after the BNT162b2 Vaccine in Israel, Oct. 27, 2021

Unlike natural immunity, Israeli data confirms that the Pfizer vaccine wore off in just a few months in all age groups.

Persistence of neutralizing antibodies a year after SARS-CoV-2 infection in humans, Sept. 24, 2021

This Finnish study of Covid-recovered patients finds “protection against re-infection is long-lived, although antibody-mediated immunity may not persist equally well among elderly subjects.”

Analysis of the Effects of COVID-19 Mask Mandates on Hospital Resource Consumption and Mortality at the County Level, Sept. 3, 2021

This study by government scientists finds “There was no reduction in per-population daily mortality, hospital bed, ICU bed, or ventilator occupancy of COVID-19-positive patients attributable to the implementation of a mask-wearing mandate.”

Estimated US Infection- and Vaccine-Induced SARS-CoV-2 Seroprevalence Based on Blood Donations, July 2020-May 2021, Sept. 2, 2021

This CDC-funded study finds the U.S. population reached a combined 83% natural infection and vaccine-induced immunity in May, 2021. That would mean the percentage is substantially higher today and beyond what many scientists said was necessary to achieve “herd immunity.”

Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced immunity: reinfections versus breakthrough infections, Aug. 24, 2021

This large study in Israel shows “natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity.”

Longitudinal analysis shows durable and broad immune memory after SARS-CoV-2 infection with persisting antibody responses and memory B and T cells, July 20, 2021

This study followed 254 Covid-19 patients for up to 8 months and concluded they had “durable broad-based immune responses.” In fact, even very mild Covid-19 infection also protected the patients from an earlier version of “SARS” coronavirus that first emerged around 2003, and against Covid-19 variants. “Taken together, these results suggest that broad and effective immunity may persist long-term in recovered COVID-19 patients,” concludes the study scientists.

Associations of Vaccination and of Prior Infection With Positive PCR Test Results for SARS-CoV-2 in Airline Passengers Arriving in Qatar, June 9, 2021 

This study of airline passengers in Qatar found that both vaccination and prior infection were “imperfect” when it comes to preventing positive Covid-19 test results, but that the incidence of reinfection is similarly low in both groups.

Antibodies elicited by mRNA-1273 vaccination bind more broadly to the receptor binding domain than do those from SARS-CoV-2 infection, June 8, 2021

This study used “deep mutational scanning” and found natural infection may provide more powerful protection than double-dose Covid-19 vaccination: “This greater binding breadth means that single RBD mutations have less impact on neutralization by vaccine sera compared to convalescent sera.”

Necessity of COVID-19 vaccination in previously infected individuals, June 1, 2021

This study followed 52,238 employees of the Cleveland Clinic Health System in Ohio. 

For previously-infected people, the cumulative incidence of re-infection “remained almost zero.” According to the study, “Not one of the 1,359 previously infected subjects who remained unvaccinated had a [Covid-19] infection over the duration of the study” and vaccination did not reduce the risk. “Individuals who have had [Covid-19] infection are unlikely to benefit from COVID-19 vaccination,” concludes the study scientists.

SARS-CoV-2 specific memory B-cells from individuals with diverse disease severities recognize SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern, May 29, 2021

This study found strong immune signs in people who had previously been infected with Covid-19, including “those [who] experienced asymptomatic or mild disease.” The study concludes there is “reason for optimism” regarding the capacity of prior infection “to limit disease severity and transmission of variants of concern as they continue to arise and circulate.”

A population-based analysis of the longevity of SARS-CoV-2 antibody seropositivity in the United States, May 24, 2021

This study of real world data extended the timeframe of available data indicating that patients have strong immune indicators for “almost a year post-natural infection of COVID-19.” The study concludes the immune response after natural infection “may persist for longer than previously thought, thereby providing evidence of sustainability that may influence post-pandemic planning.”

SARS-CoV-2 infection induces long-lived bone marrow plasma cells in humans, May 24, 2021

This study examined bone marrow of previously-infected patients and found that even mild infection with Covid-19 “induces robust antigen-specific, long-lived humoral immune memory in humans.” The study indicates “People who have had mild illness develop antibody-producing cells that can last lifetime.”

People who have had mild illness develop antibody-producing cells that can last lifetime.

World Health Organization (WHO) scientific brief, May 10, 2021

This scientific brief issued by WHO states that after natural infection with Covid-19, “available scientific data suggests that in most people immune responses remain robust and protective against reinfection for at least 6-8 months.”

Detection of SARS-CoV-2-Specific Humoral and Cellular Immunity in COVID-19 Convalescent Individuals, May 3, 2020

This study found humoral and cellular immunity in recovered Covid patients. “Production of S-RBD-specific antibodies were readily detected in recovered patients. Moreover, we observed virus-neutralization activities in these recovered patients,” wrote the study authors.

The adaptive immune system consists of three major lymphocyte types: B cells (antibody producing cells), CD4+ T cells (helper T cells), and CD8+ T cells (cytotoxic, or killer, T cells

From: Antigen-Specific Adaptive Immunity to SARS-CoV-2 in Acute COVID-19 and Associations with Age and Disease Severity

Protection of previous SARS-CoV-2 infection is similar to that of BNT162b2 vaccine protection: A three-month nationwide experience from Israel, April 24, 2021

This study from Israel found a slight advantage to natural infection over vaccination when it comes to preventing a reinfection and severe illness from Covid-19.

The study authors concluded, “Our results question the need to vaccinate previously-infected individuals.”

A 1 to 1000 SARS-CoV-2 reinfection proportion in members of a large healthcare provider in Israel: a preliminary report, March 6, 2021

This study found a rare Covid-19 positive test “reinfection” rate of 1 per 1,000 recoveries.

Previous COVID-19 infection but not Long-COVID is associated with increased adverse events following BNT162b2/Pfizer vaccination April 2021

This study finds people who had Covid and then got vaccinated with Pfizer, anyway, may be at higher risk of adverse events from vaccination.

Lasting immunity found after recovery from COVID-19, Jan. 26, 2021

Research funded by the National Institutes of Health and published in Science early in the Covid-19 vaccine effort found the “immune systems of more than 95% of people who recovered from COVID-19 had durable memories of the virus up to eight months after infection,” and hoped the vaccines would produce similar immunity. (However, experts say they do not appear to be doing so.)

SARS-CoV-2 reinfection in a cohort of 43,000 antibody-positive individuals followed for up to 35 weeks, Jan. 15, 2021

This study found Covid-19 natural infection “appears to elicit strong protection against reinfection” for at least seven months. “Reinfection is “rare,” concludes the scientists.

Immunological memory to SARS-CoV-2 assessed for up to eight months after infection, Nov. 1, 2020

This study confirmed and examined “immune memory” in previously-infected Covid-19 patients.

Negligible impact of SARS-CoV-2 variants on CD4+ and CD8+ T cell reactivity in COVID-19 exposed donors and vaccinees, Nov. 1, 2020

This study concluded “T cell” immune response in former Covid-19 patients likely continues to protect amid Covid-19 variants.

Orthogonal SARS-CoV-2 Serological Assays Enable Surveillance of Low-Prevalence Communities and Reveal Durable Humoral Immunity, Oct. 13, 2020

This study found that “neutralizing antibodies are stably produced for at least 5–7 months” after a patient is infected with Covid-19.

SARS-CoV-2-specific T cell immunity in cases of COVID-19 and SARS, and uninfected controls, July 25, 2020

This study found that all patients who recently recovered from Covid-19 produced immunity-strong T cells that recognize multiple parts of Covid-19.

They also looked at blood samples from 23 people who’d survived a 2003 outbreak of a coronavirus: SARS (Cov-1). These people still had lasting memory T cells 17 years after the outbreak. Those memory T cells, acquired in response to SARS-CoV-1, also recognized parts of Covid-19 (SARS-CoV-2).

Much of the study on the immune response to SARS-CoV-2, the novel coronavirus that causes COVID-19, has focused on the production of antibodies. But, in fact, immune cells known as memory T cells also play an important role in the ability of our immune systems to protect us against many viral infections, including—it now appears—COVID-19.

“Immune T Cells May Offer Lasting Protection Against COVID-19”

Read: scientific commentary by Jay Bhattacharya, Sunetra Gupta, and Martin Kulldorff.


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443 thoughts on “Covid-19 natural immunity compared to vaccine-induced immunity: The definitive summary”

  1. I had covid19 in winter of 2020 I was down for 3 weeks but recovered. My son caught covid19 in late April early May 2021. He was hospitalized with covid19 and pneumonia. I tested positive again 11 days later. I was hit with no taste and allergy like symptoms for 3 days. When my wife and I tested positive in May we went to a local blood bank and paid for anti-body tests. They came back 220 and 225 au/ml. Which means our bodies knew what was attacking us and were creating the anti-bodies to do so. We have not and will not be getting vaccinated.

  2. Sharyl…you are one of the most honest, dependable and intelligent true-life journalists of our time. I have viewed many of your real news stories and learned so much.
    Your non-biased reporting and professional approach is so needed today. Thank you for being a source that is not bought or swayed by public opinion but by honest research.
    I am a fan and may God bless you and your family.

  3. Having had covid in December, I’m worried that this “showing your vaccine papers” will cause backlash against covid survivors. ( I luckily had a fairly mild case). I did however almost die from h1n1 four years ago. I definitely get my regular flu shot now, every October. There is no way to prove I had covid to these crazy authorities who want papers. Sadly, I’m still suffering from loss of taste and smell. Hopefully I’m not stupid yet, I see that one making the rounds, if you had it, you are now less intelligent. God help us all!!!

    1. Show your COVID positive test result and also go get an antibody lab test. U will be positive for antibodies that will show u have acquired immunity. Not that that will be enough for the vaccine “evangelicals”. But that’s how u can prove your status.

  4. I work for NYC and i have had Covid, My employer is mandating that all employers get vaccinated.
    i am going to refuse the jab, can they do anything to me?

    i am at retiring age, but dont want to retire. I love my job (IT) and still have many years left , i’m just 70!

    Thank you !

    GG

    1. peaceandquietplease

      Frontline Doctors’ website has a legal page which includes a document with questions for employers who are “mandating” the injection. Lot’s of excellent questions as to the legal ramifications for those companies who are making such demands.

      Most importantly informed consent can no be given with an experimental injection – no mandate should require an experimental treatment without informed consent ergo these employers are likely in violation of the law mandating injections which are not licensed.

      Here is the link to the legal form suggested to be sent to employers – questions are very important to have answered: https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/609462860f3394d5991a85fd_Employee-Form-Covid-Injections.pdf

      1. I have not see the legal form yet, but the FDA has just fully approved the Pfizer jab; it is no longer experimental. My 40-something son and his family have just recovered from covid, and he is well aware of the dangers of the jab, especially for recovered covid ‘survivors’. Yet though his profession in healthcare (dentistry) hasn’t been specifically noted in the California vaccine mandate for all healthcare workers, his professional organization has stated that they require it. What to do?

    2. Yes, they can fire you as New York is an at-will employment state. They must, however, provide you with the opportunity to request a medical or religious exemption. Maybe find a remote IT job with an employer that doesn’t mandate vaccination?

    3. With all the horrible side effects that are being reported as a result of these vaccines maybe a long retirement is something you will not have to worry about. retire and find a hobby. I would not risk it, some of the side effects are pretty horrific.

    4. This is from a good lawyer on the internet that knows his stuff and is a champion of the little guy:

      Robert Barnes: https://vivabarneslaw.locals.com/
      Jul 28, 2021 at 2:22pm
      Article of the Day: Look For Small Print in Vaccine Mandates
      A common pattern I am seeing is employers, educators, and governments making broad, big, boastful claims of “Everyone Must Get the Vaccination”, but then, buried in the small print, is a big, fat loophole. Usually, this entails alternative mitigation measurements (Covid test, masks, remote work options), a right to request an exception (usually includes both religious and medical exemption requests), and a limitation on actual punishment (e.g., referral to human resources rather than actual termination or suspension, etc). As just one example, as multiple board members noticed yesterday, the much ballyhooed DOJ opinion letter green lighting vaccines (a letter without any legally binding effect, by the way) actually had a huge loophole mentioned in a footnote: basically making clear that the ADA may prohibit such a compelled vaccine for anyone other than the federal government. Here is just one such recent example identified by RFK’s Children Health Defense site, which is a great site to stay updated on these issues. A university letter “deliberately omits any reference to a student’s right to submit medical and religious exemption requests, thereby giving the false impression that such requests are no longer valid or able to be considered” when compared to the actual university policy. https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/julio-c-gomez-rutgers-false-emails-students-covid-vaccine-mandate/

    5. Here is another option to opt out of the vaccine:

      Robert Barnes@RobertBarnes
      8/4/2021

      Why Some Assert Religious Exemption to Vaccine

      A letter that also came to me via a route like a letter in a bottle.

      “Each of the Covid vaccines currently available include forms of testing and development with fetal cell lines, which originated from aborted fetuses. For example, each of the currently available Covid vaccines derived from protein testing using the abortion-derived cell line HEK-293. Partaking in a vaccine made from aborted fetuses makes me complicit in an action that offends my religious faith. As such, I cannot, in good conscience and in accord with my religious faith, take any such Covid vaccine at this time. Please provide a reasonable accommodation to my belief, as I wish to continue to be a good employee, helpful to the team.

      Employee of the Year,

      Thomas Paine”

  5. Wow. Great article. So nice to actually get some journalism and information! All we see is same old narrative…feels like we are in the middle of a dystopian novel. Thank you

  6. Sharyl,

    Excellent work. I would suggest a companion piece to go with this; the changes in testing recommendations by the CDC. I believe the guidance for test cycles has changed over the past year, which would normally invalidate statistical comparisons. Also, although there is guidance, there is no control; each lab operates independently, and cycle numbers are generally not included with the results. I also believe there have already been reports of significant false positive results with cycles above 28, which has been until recently the guidance (35-40).
    Further, the CDC has not extended the emergency use authorization for the PCR test, identifying its inability to detect differences between SARS-CoV-2 & influenza. PCR testing is set to expire end of December this year.
    Finally, once the mRNA therapy shots were rolled out to the public, the CDC changed testing guidance for those receiving the jab. Why? They specifically rejected positive results based on the higher cycle thresholds. They also discouraged testing for those given the jab. Why?

    I believe a timeline of CDC testing guidance will expose clear issues and acts of omission with the testing comparisons which are used every day. Adding that to the natural immunity population, and most likely there is no longer a pandemic or significant transmission risk in the US.

    1. Yesssss!! Thank you for expressing these concerns better than I could. I’ve been saying this for almost a year, and suddenly the CDC decided to change the CT criteria?!?! Please, please do this follow up article!!

  7. Most people –including scientists, doctors, and other formally educated folks– are rather profoundly perplexed and befuddled by the various absurdities of the Covid crisis (e.g., the back-and-forth shifting of scientific decrees, the censorship of valid data, etc.). They cannot really make sense out of it all.  At best, they can DESCRIBE the absurdities but they cannot explain why it is happening.

    Why is that? It is because they lack pieces of vital knowledge, whose lack hinders and disables accurate coherent full understanding (therefore, it impairs the proper decision-making process and the potential for profound constructive action).

    Those “missing” pieces of knowledge right in front of our noses are described in a comprehensive article  called “The 2 Married Pink Elephants In The Historical Room –The  Holocaustal Covid-19 Coronavirus Madness: A Sociological Perspective  & Historical Assessment Of The Covid “Phenomenon”” by Rolf Hefti at www dot  CovidTruthBeKnown  dot com or search for it by title and author.

    Without a proper understanding, and full acknowledgment, of the true problem, no real constructive change is possible.

    1. That article you mentioned is a data free waste of time.
      There are a large number of footnotes,
      but who has many hours to read the attached articles / studies?

      I am in favor of Vitamin C supplements for people who do not eat a lot of fresh fruit.
      I take 500mg Vitamin C every morning.
      It could be useful to prevent COVID along with the 10000 IU Vitamin D I take every day.

      If Vitamin C is useful against COVID,
      you, in your comment, and the article you mentioned,
      have both failed to present convincing data … or any data.
      Without data you are just another person with an opinion.
      We already have 1001 opinions on COVID.

  8. I had tested positive for Covid in October of last year. I had a low grade fever, some chills and bad fatigue for 2 weeks. I’ve never been sick that long! In January of this year I had my 6 month visit with my oncologist for my CLL (leukemia) . He had the lab do an antibody test and when he got the results he said I had plenty of antibodies. He was surprised as was I. He did not push me to get vaccinated. Just last month I went in for my visit and was told I’d be seeing a different doctor, the one I have been seeing for 10 years was no longer there. This new doctor immediately began harping for me to get the Covid vaccine. When I asked about testing for antibodies he told me that I could ask my primary physician to do that. You’d think an oncologist would want to know if his cancer patient had antibodies to such a “killer” disease. I will be finding a new oncologist.

    1. And remember, read the studies here, the antibodies are not the only measure of immunity. You may have immunity without antibodies showing.

      1. Exactly. The T & B cell memory that quietly lingers in our body is the real story. T cells will go after the pathogen while B cells start secreting antibodies to fight off the familiar invader.

        Also Sheryl that KY study was ONLY of those with prior infection. Some vaxxed some unvaxxed. Tho Dr Collins at NIH totally misrepresented the results. Fishing for anything to support his shaky narrative. It was also only 246 peeps over two months and is loaded down with caveats from its authors. Who nonetheless admit that either way natural immunity is both broad & durable.

        As for breakthrough reporting, Walensky in her infinite wisdom back in May decided CDC would only count those that resulted in death or hospitalization. So as usual they have now been catching up.

  9. Thank You for a well written and well researched article.
    I had Covid in December of 2019, it lasted approx 7 days. I took no meds other than marijuana and chicken soup, slept a lot with the heat cranked wrapped up like burrito sweating it out. One night it was really nasty, but it started clearing up quickly after that.
    Since that time I have felt what I believe to be reinfections a few times, but it’s never kicked in and disappears completely after one good long sweaty sleep.
    Natural Immunity seems to be working awesomely for me.

    1. Marijuana and chicken soup?
      December 2019?
      Are you sure you didn’t have ordinary influenza?

      The PCR test for COVID is very unreliable.
      Example: A friend who had a positive PCR test in 2020, and was,
      diagnosed as a COVID case … followed by a negative PCR test,
      after I suggested the test was not very accurate … then she was
      diagnosed as having bronchitis

      One issue that gets too little attention is details
      on COVID symptoms, by people who had the disease.

      Of 10 friends from age 50 to 75,
      who had COVID, with symptoms,
      (excluding their children, whose COVID symptoms
      were too mild to be worth mentioning)

      None of the ten were hospitalized
      None of the ten died
      Two of the ten had serious flu symptoms for about two weeks
      Seven had ordinary flu symptoms
      One only lost his sense of smell (70+ years old)

      Concerning vaccine side effects.
      The wife (age 72) and I (age 67)
      have not taken the vaccine, and won’t be.
      We do take Vitamin D supplements.
      Both of us haven’t had a cold in years.
      I’ve never had a flu vaccine, and never had the flu.

      If I did have the flu, I wouldn’t call everyone I know
      and describe my symptoms.

      Similarly, no one we know discussed side effects of their COVID vaccines until after we specifically asked them, months later, and then pressed them for an answer.

      One relative about age 50 was so sick she could not work for the next three days.
      Another relative about age 70 did not have any energy for about three days and slept a lot. A lot of sore arms for the others, and not feeling well for one day — typical of vaccines of all types.

      Of course the two more serious vaccine side effects were never reported to VAERS

      It seems to me that if a person tested positive for COVID, and died in the next two months, of any cause, that was counted as a COVID death.

      But if a person had a COVID vaccine, and died more than 20 minutes later, that death was not from the vaccine !

      It’s a shame that I trust commenters here a lot more
      than the CDC and grouchy old Fauci.

  10. I was looking for info on people with natural immunity not having had covid and not having had vaccines. Just healthy immune system Natural supplements taken daily and a record of healthy immune system should deflect infection. Following protocols and masking as needed has been successful.

    1. I’m one…. I had a borderline moderate to severe case that lasted 2 weeks in August 2020. I had all the symptoms except sore throat. Severe GI symptoms, severe fatigue, unrelenting fevers, headache, total loss of sense of smell. 2 weeks in, it started entering the shortness of breath phase, and started getting numbness in my shoulders. The next day the fever broke and the symptoms abruptly stopped, leaving me with an odd tickle pain when breathing deep, that subsided in about 4 days. I have had no long term issues.

      The funny thing, I have not been sick with anything at all for a year now. About 2 weeks ago I thought the streak was over, really bad sinuses and that welling up feeling in the throat, all the signs of a cold or flu. Next day, gone,

      I will not be taking any vaccine.

  11. Concerned Citizen

    Thank you Sheryl. All great information, some known, some unknown. And real reporting from a real reporter! Fake news media – please take note.

    1. I know it’s not confirmed because the first time I suspect having it was January of 2020 obviously without a test because it was still unknown. But I had all the “common symptoms “ lack of taste, slight fever, then the respiratory issues for about 3 weeks. Dry hacking cough and the breathing issues. Not unbearable, worked throughout. Then I got it a year later, almost to the day. Second time was pcr confirmed with minor cold like symptoms and the lack of taste. Resolved in less than a week. If not for protocol, I never would have missed 14 minutes of work never mind 14 days .

    2. The recent Massachusetts outbreak data showed that 1% of the infected had covid previously and that 40% had been vaccinated previously. Adjusted for group size, natural immunity was 6.7X better than the vax.

      The Cleveland Clinic study mentioned above tracked over 2,000 people who had recovered from covid and zero became re-infected within the 10 month tracking period.

    3. I didn’t write (ask) that but, yeah, who else? I’ve had it twice (Dec19 & Jun21) and do not plan to get the jab.

    4. My sister did .she is 57. Has Brest cancer .has surgery.treatments done all before covid .within months .first time positive not bad .second time after treatment of cancer .said it was worse .said she felt weak.had shakes for day .no bad fever .breathing was hard for couple days ..She just got the j&j shot ..I warned her of it .told her was not good and that one really bad .the nurse gave her aspirin fir blood thinner said could cause blood clods .I’m worried about her .got it yesterday .she don’t feel good she said made her sick .

  12. Sharyl, thanks for what you do. So many of us appreciate the truth. I have trouble with the email part and i think it’s on my end because i wont agree to certain terms.

  13. I had COVID last year. Very mild symptoms & I did not take a test. I did donate blood after I recovered & tested positive for the antibodies. I have since donated again & now I’m negative for the antibodies. My brother tested positive last week & I drove him to get an infusion while he had symptoms. So far, I haven’t felt bad & am hoping I don’t get it again. I have not, nor do I plan on getting jabbed. My husband never had a symptom before, during or after I had mild symptoms. He donated blood as well & tested positive for the antibodies. He does not plan on getting jabbed. We are both in our late 50’s with no underlining health issues other than my husband taking blood pressure meds. We just don’t see a need for a jab.

  14. Thank you for this article. Pretty timely, since I’m getting constant pressure from family to get the vaccine and I’m as yet undecided.

    1. Don’t cave to the pressure! If you are healthy and take care of yourself, there is no need to put a poison into your body. Covid has a 99%+recovery rate. Why would I put a poison into my body that does NOTHING to keep me from getting the virus?

  15. As a Covid recovered person I am also, deeply troubled by what I hear (studies anyone?) that the vaccine actually destroys/replaces the natural immunity with the vax immunity. If true, there is not only no demonstrated benefit of the vax, but potentially serious downside if we are actually trading years-long/better immunity for more temporary/weaker immunity. This, apart from the incidence of other vaccine side effects (micro clots).

    Throw into the mix the potential for auto immune disorder if we dont know what other protein spikes may be in the body (now or in future) that will be attacked by the RNA modified cells, versus natural immunity that would ony attack Covid.

    1. Just applying common sense, as you did:

      Do I want my body creating spike proteins for an unknown period of time, hoping that will create long term antibodies for COVID19, with no adverse long term side effects?
      Answer: No, there is already evidence the antibodies are not long term, and not very effective against the Delta variant.

      Do I want to reduce my probability of catching any respiratory disease by taking
      Vitamin D supplements:
      Answer: Yes, I’ve been taking 15,000 IU a day vitamin D3 since March 2020

      Should I assume no adverse long term effects from COVID vaccines, after observing the worst short term side effects of any vaccine in US history?
      Answer: No, that would be wishful thinking.

      Should I trust what my government tells me about COVID?
      Answer: You must be kidding !

      1. Everyone needs to know there is such a thing as too much vitamin D becoming built up in your body. No one should start taking more than 1,000 or 2,000 IUs per day with a doctor’s supervision and testing your D level annually. I used to take 2,000 IU per day and my level was near 70. 80 becomes too much. I had to back down to 1,000 per day.

        1. Vitamin D supplement overdose is EXTREMELY rare.

          There is no evidence of any danger for 10,000 IU a day or less.

          The amount of Vitamin D supplements should depend on the amount of sunlight on bare skin per week and age.

          Problems (excess calcium in blood) have been noticed with 40,000 IU a day and higher..

          https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/how-much-vitamin-d-is-too-much

          A study found just 30 minutes of midday summer sun exposure in Oslo, Norway was equivalent to consuming 10,000–20,000 IU of vitamin D a day.

          If vitamin D overdose was a problem, a lot of “sun worshipers” would be in the hospital with kidney diseases from too much calcium in the bloodstream. And they are not.

          1. Natural vitamin D from the sun, and supplemented vitamin D are used differently by the body, from my research.

            With sunshine, your body can regulate D3 levels to make sure you are not “overdosing” with D3. With supplemental form of D3, that is not the case.

            Personally I consume 4000-5000 IU of D3 daily, and I had a recent test showing my level at 50.

            I definitely would not recommend anyone taking up to 10,000 IU or more daily for long term use, especially if not combined with K2.

            At the end of the day though, as long as you keep on track of where your levels are in regards to calcium and d3, you should be able to adjust based on your results.

        2. I have been taking 5000 IU of vitamin D for a couple years now. My vitamin D lab test just last week showed a level of 65. Toxicity is 100 or above.

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