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Raven 23 and the former U.S. soldier in prison under a life sentence

President Trump has stepped in to help three military troops whose supporters said were wrongly accused of war crimes.

Not impacted is a former soldier serving a life sentence for his actions while providing security for a U.S. diplomat in Iraq.

Nick Slatten served with the team known as "Raven 23." In 2007, Raven 23 was called to escort a U.S. diplomat to safety after a car bomb exploded. Warnings of possible suicide bombings had been issued. When a car barreled toward the U.S. convoy and refused to stop, Raven 23 fired and it began a horrific firefight. At least 14 "innocent civilians" were shot.

Amid prosecutorial misconduct and multiple trials, Slatten was ultimately convicted of first degree murder and is now serving a life sentence.

As is often the case, there is more to the story. Read my report below as it aired on Full Measure. A video link follows.

“Army 1st Lt. Clint Lorance, one of two U.S. Army officers granted clemency Friday by POTUS Trump, was released from prison in Kansas on Friday night & reunited w/ family members.” ➡️https://t.co/SjeGn8CnoP

Below, Clint reunites w/ family, after 6yrs (19yr sentence) in prison. pic.twitter.com/dpoSwanojS

— Dan Scavino (@DanScavino) November 16, 2019

It seems every military conflict has its own tragic version of innocent civilians killed wrongly in the heat of war. In Iraq, there was the Nisour Square shootings in 2007. One of the accused, a decorated former U.S. soldier, was on trial just last week eleven years after the incident. In fact, the lives of four decorated former US soldiers still hang in the balance after all this time. Were their actions in legitimate self defense..or criminal acts? And did our own government suppress or misrepresent evidence? That's today's cover story: the case of Raven 23.

The logical place to begin is in Iraq— at the time, one of the most dangerous places on the planet. After the 9/11 attacks, U.S. forces deposed dictator Saddam Hussein — then faced a constant barrage from Islamic extremist terrorists and insurgents. On September 16, 2007 there was a deadly clash in the capital of Baghdad. A team of former US military troops code named “Raven 23” were working for the private firm, Blackwater, when they reportedly opened fire on innocent civilians. The episode heightened tensions between Iraq and the US— and the FBI stepped in to investigate. It concluded the Blackwater contractors “unleashed powerful sniper fire, machine guns, and grenade launchers on innocent men, women, and children” shooting at least 14 “without cause.” Including two boys ages 9 and 11. But like most stories—there are at least two sides. Erik Prince was Blackwater’s founder.

Erik Prince: This is the story of American military veterans who answered the call again when their country needed them— this time to protect diplomats— in a very large scale, in a war zone. And it is their political prosecution that followed an unfortunate incident in the middle of a war zone after multiple enemy attacks. 

Prince, a former Navy SEAL, made Blackwater an integral part of U.S. overseas security after Islamic extremist terrorists bombed the USS Cole in 2000— murdering 17 sailors. Blackwater was hired to train our sailors in counterterrorism. In 2004, Iraqi insurgents killed four Blackwater contractors, set their bodies on fire, dragged them through the streets and hung them from a bridge. 

Sharyl: What was the claim from the other side? What did they say that your guys had done wrong? 

Erik Prince: And it was a bad firing that there was all these innocent civilians that were killed. 

In fact, to this day, media accounts make it sound as if the “Blackwater guards” randomly “open(ed) fire” on Iraqi civilians— unprovoked and for no reason. But Prince says that sorely lacks context: the Raven 23 team thought it had come under ambush trying to escort the US official to safety. 

Erik Prince: A car bomb had gone off. And the support team, Raven 23 was to block the traffic circles so the fleeing vehicles can move through there, uh, smoothly. All the vehicle stopped except for one which kept coming and coming and coming. It was a white Kia. 

The Blackwater team reported the white Kia was driving straight at the convoy like a suicide bomber. When it kept going despite verbal orders and hand signals to stop, at least one Blackwater guard fired— killing the driver and his mother. Iraqis began firing back and a full-blown firefight broke out. Reba and Darrell Slatten are the parents of one of the Blackwater guards: Nick Slatten. 

Sharyl: So your understanding is that car to them was seen as a threat. So maybe that, maybe, maybe a car bomb. 

Darrell Slatten: That's what it was. So ‘stop, stop, stop.’ Keeps coming. 

Reba Slatten: They had been actually a brief that morning: ‘Be on the lookout for a white Kia because it's probably a car bomb.’ 
But Iraqi investigators and the FBI said panic and animosity toward the locals drove some members of Raven 23 to commit a criminal massacre. 

Sharyl: When you heard this report, did it ever occur to you that these men would end up being criminally prosecuted? 

Erik Prince: When I first heard the report of the events of September 16, it actually sounded like dozens and dozens of other incidents, uh, that the guys had been in and subject to in Iraq in war zones. Remember, helicopters were shot down, vehicles blown up, men shot by snipers, by suicide vests, by every kind of have a danger you could face. 41 of our men had been killed in action doing that work for the U.S. government and, you know, hundreds wounded on top of that. 

Sharyl: What do you think made this one different? 

Erik Prince: This was the height of the surge and it was also the height of real antiwar, noise and protest in the United States. 

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Blackwater and other private contractors were also under increasing attack in Congress over allegations ranging from poor supervision to harmful misconduct. After the murky and disputed accounts of the tragedy in Iraq involving Raven 23 the pursuit of criminal charges against Slatten and the other Blackwater guards has spanned three U.S. presidential administrations. In 2008, Slatten and four others - all decorated former military soldiers—were charged with multiple counts of manslaughter.A year later—all the charges were thrown out due to misconduct by prosecutors. In 2011, prosecutors refiled charges — then dropped them against one man after new allegations of prosecutor misconduct. Among the four left, Nick Slatten was hit hardest. This time, instead of manslaughter, the Justice Department charged him with first degree murder — accusing him of firing the first shot at the Kia driver. Even though teammate Paul Slough had admitted to doing so.Nick Slatten’s sister, Jessica, is an attorney. 

Jessica Slatten: Multiple other up gunners shot into the car because the car kept coming. My brother never shot at the Kia. The government has known that since day one.

The Slattens say Nick told them not to bother to come from Tennessee to the first trial a joint trial held in Washington DC in 2014. 

Reba Slatten: He said, mom, I'm not a murderer. I didn't shoot the driver of the Kia. Um, so don't come up here. Don't waste your time. Don't waste your money. I'll see you. I thought he was coming home. 

At that first trial, Slatten was forbidden from telling the jury that one of his co-defendants had admitted to the shooting he was accused of. All four men were convicted. All of them except Slatten got 30 years in prison. Slatten got life— for first degree murder. 

Sharyl: So what did it make you think as a mom when you thought he was just doing his job and you heard that he was being perceived as a criminal? 

Reba Slatten: I couldn't believe that the United States was doing this to my son who served four years in the 82nd airborne and loves this country. I was in shock.

But the story was far from over after the 2014 trial. The convictions started a movement by family members and advocates. For them, a big break came last year. An appeals court determined the sentences were “cruel and unusual punishment” and threw them out. And it said Slatten deserved a new trial because jurors had been kept from hearing key evidence in his defense. The new trial began in Washington D.C. in JulyThis time, Slatten’s parents, grandmother and sister were all there. And this time, jurors finally got to hear that Slatten’s teammate had acknowledged shooting the driver of the white Kia. The one prosecutors accused Slatten of murdering. But this past Wednesday, after a month of deliberations, the trial — Slatten’s second — ended with no resolution. A hung jury. The Justice Department declined our requests for comment and hasn’t yet said whether it will try Slatten yet again. Slatten’s family say Nick is the victim of a malicious prosecution in our government’s misguided attempt to use Raven 23 as a symbol of accountability in an unpopular war. 

Darrell Slatten: And this case has brought me to understand that we don't really live in a country of justice and truth. It's about the check in the winners' column. And that's what our justice system is today. Totally corrupt.

Slatten and the other Raven 23 members have been charged, had charges dropped, were recharged and convicted, then had those sentences thrown out. All are still in prison while the Justice Department decides on next steps. Meantime, they’ve served more than four years— that’s longer than a Blackwater colleague who plead guilty a decade ago to voluntary manslaughter served a year and a day.

Watch the video of Raven 23 story by clicking this link: http://fullmeasure.news/news/cover-story/raven-23

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The truth about "The Wall"

New, fortified wall in Arizona along the U.S.-Mexico border

If you're like me, you've heard a lot of claims about progress on a Southern border wall-- or lack thereof.

Some people say a great deal of new wall or fencing has been built under President Trump.

Some claim virtually no new structure has really been built.

And still others say any wall built under Trump should actually be credited to President Obama.

Sunday on Full Measure, I set out to get at the facts without the spin. I'll tell you just how much wall has or has not been built under President Trump.

I'll also have a fascinating interview with news media skeptic and conservative TV and radio host Mark Levin. His new book, "Unfreedom of the Press," is a New York Times bestseller.

And just for fun, we'll visit a fantastical place in a faraway land where the Star Wars saga began.

We never waste your time rehashing news you've already seen all week. To learn how to watch Full Measure on TV, online or on demand, click: How to watch Full Measure

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"Read the transcript" (Call #2, July 25)

President Trump has insisted his July 25, 2019 phone call with Ukraine's president was "perfect."

His critics argue it's evidence of a criminal quid pro quo, extortion and bribery.

Read the transcript as released by the White House below.

Note: Per procedures described by White House officials, the "transcript" is not necessarily a direct verbatim of the call, which reportedly was not recorded, but a compilation of transcribed notes taken by observers. This apparently is not a process unique to the Trump presidency. George Kent, Deputy Asst. Secretary of State who testified against Trump at Wednesday's impeachment hearing, stated it is not unusual for such calls to not be recorded.

The link to the document is below:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf

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The Biden-Burisma part of the impeachment hearing

George Kent, Deputy Asst. Sec. of State (left) and Ambassador William Taylor (right)
Wed. Nov. 13, Courtesy: CSPAN

The following is a new analysis

There are plenty of post mortems on day one of the impeachment hearings against President Trump.

There's a summary in The Huffington Post, this left-sided take is from Rolling Stone, and here's a view from the right-side in The Washington Examiner.

Instead of reinventing the wheel, I'll highlight a few interesting sections from each of the two witnesses.

George Kent, Deputy Asst. Secretary of State testified that the Obama administration pressed Ukraine to investigate the Ukrainian energy company Burisma long before President Trump sought an investigation.

Kent agrees today that Burisma should be "fully investigated," as President Trump has asked.

Kent explained the history of Burisma corruption. He alleged that Burisma CEO Mykola Zlochevsky, formerly part of the pro-Russian Ukrainian government (2010-2012), was guilty of self dealing and corruption. Zlochevsky then went on to found Burisma, the largest private gas company in that nation.

Kent stated that in December 2014, a bribe was paid within Ukraine to make an investigation into Zlochevsky's crimes "go away." Kent says the bribed official fled Ukraine as the U.S. pressed Ukrainian officials to answer why prosecutors closed the case.

Kent stated that about the time the bribe was paid to shut down the investigation of Burisma in 2014, the corrupt Zlochevsky invited a series of new, prominent individuals to serve on his board. They included the former president of Poland and the son of Vice President Biden, Hunter. Hunter Biden was reportedly paid upward of $50,000 a month to serve on Burisma's board for the corrupt Zlochevsky.

Kent testified that he was so concerned about Burisma corruption, that in May of 2014, when he learned Burisma was trying to co-sponsor an essay contest with the U.S. Agency of International Development, Kent asked the U.S. to bow out, saying we should not co-sponsor anything with a company that has such a bad reputation.

Kent said that in 2015, he expressed concern about "Hunter Biden's status as a [Burisma] board member" amid the corruption questions because it "could create the perception of a conflict of interest." He said he did not raise the issue with the State Department, which did not seem concerned, but did raise it with the Vice President's office. Kent stated he has "no idea" what the Vice President's office did about his concerns.

In Spring of 2016, Vice President Joe Biden threatened to withhold U.S. military aid from Ukraine unless the Ukrainian president agreed to fire its chief prosecutor within six hours. The prosecutor was investigating corruption including Burisma, where Biden's son still served on the board. Ukraine's president agreed and fired the prosecutor. (Biden has said he got the prosecutor fired because he was corrupt.)

Kent defended Biden's action and stated it was accordance with U.S. policy.

When asked, Kent agreed that it was unprecedented for a U.S. official to give a foreign president a six hour deadline to fire a prosecutor as a condition for receiving U.S. aid.

Kent says up until today, the U.S. has not gotten a satisfactory answer to why the Burisma case was closed.

Kent testified that Burisma corruption still needs to be investigated because U.S. tax money was involved, and he says he would like to find out the name of the corrupt Ukrainian prosecutor who took the bribe. Kent says he expressed this desire in 2015.

Kent says the new president of Ukraine and new prosecutor have agreed to review the old crimes never brought to justice, but that often people are "never held to account" in notoriously corrupt Ukraine so there is "lots to review."

Kent stated that Vice President Biden made six visits to Ukraine, though Biden stated he'd been there 13 times.

When asked if someone, such as Biden should be immune from investigation because he is currently running for political office, Kent stated "no."

When asked, Kent agreed it's appropriate to look at foreign assistance in terms of levels of corruption within the receiving country.

Read the Politico investigation about Ukrainian interference in the U.S. 2016 election to help Hillary Clinton and "sabotage" Trump. https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446

William Taylor, Acting Ambassador to Ukraine said he found a “weird combination of confusing and ultimately alarming circumstances” involving the newly-elected government in Ukraine. He said there appeared to be two U.S. diplomatic channels for communicating with and about Ukraine: “regular” (which he had control over) and “irregular.”

Ambassador William Taylor

Amb. Taylor testified he was concerned that the "irregular channel was going against purpose of regular channel."

Amb. Taylor indicated he was upset that President Trump was going outside the “regular” channels, using an “irregular, informal” channel “unaccountable to Congress” that consisted of:

  • Energy Secretary Rick Perry
  • U.S. Special Representative for Ukraine Kurt Volker
  • Director of the Office of Management and Budget Mick Mulvaney
  • U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland
  • Trump attorney and adviser Rudy Giuliani.

Amb. Taylor stated that the regular diplomats were enthusiastic about the newly-elected president of Ukraine and they urged President Trump to meet with him to cement the relationship, but "Trump didn't share the enthusiasm."

Amb. Taylor stated that approval of additional aid to Ukraine was being held by the Office of Management and Budget, supposedly at the president's behest. Trump had reportedly asked for an assessment of the effectiveness of U.S. assistance to Ukraine. Amb. Taylor felt that was "a threat to longstanding policy."

Amb. Taylor said OMB's Mulvaney maintained a "skeptical view of Ukraine."

Amb. Taylor said Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky indicated he did not want to be used in U.S. election campaign.

Amb. Taylor was upset at being excluded from some discussions involving Ukraine, on which he disagreed.

Amb. Taylor stated that he was afraid that U.S. strong support toward Ukraine was "shifting." He said he was “embarrassed” at times that he didn’t have answers about U.S. policy toward Ukraine.

Amb. Taylor said he was concerned to learn on September first that the U.S. made additional aid and a White House meeting with Ukraine's president conditional on Ukraine conducting investigations into its corruption, including Burisma.

Amb. Taylor says Amb. Sondland told him that President Trump wanted Ukraine's President Zelensky to publicly state he would investigate Burisma and 2016 election interference. Amb. Taylor said that President Trump wanted Zelensky in a "public box to keep him honest"; make him publicly commit to the investigations. Amb. Taylor disagreed with this “demand” and asked Amb. Sondland to “push back” against it.

Amb. Taylor said he “understood” there to be a stalemate: Ukraine would not get additional U.S. assistance without President Zelensky making a public statement agreeing to an investigation.

Amb. Taylor stated that did not want President Zelensky to give make a planned statement on CNN promising an investigation, and Amb. Taylor says he sought assurances from President Zelensky that he would not do so.

Amb. Taylor stated that the withholding of additional U.S. aid was "wrong" and that doing so "shook [Ukraine's] confidence."

Amb. Taylor acknowledged the U.S. "conditions assistance all the time," but he disagreed with what he assumed to be Trump’s motivations.

Amb. Taylor said his "nightmare" was that President Zelensky would make the public statement but not get the U.S. aid. “Russians love it and I quit,” he says he texted at the time, adding, “I think it’s crazy to withhold political assistance for help with political campaign.”

Amb. Taylor says Amb. Sondland told him President Trump had been "crystal clear: no quid pro quo." Amb. Taylor said he assumed the opposite was true, though did not speak to Trump.

Amb. Trump quoted Amb. Sondland as explaining that when a businessman like Trump is about to sign a check, he asks for them to "pay up" before the signing. Amb. Taylor said that "didn't make sense" because "the Ukrainians didn’t owe U.S. anything."

The hold on additional U.S. assistance was lifted the next day without Zelensky making a public statement or providing "dirt" on Biden, even though Amb. Taylor and Kent said they clearly understood the aid would not be released unless those quid pro quo terms were met.

In the end, additional aid to Ukraine was delayed for 55 days from July 18-Sept. 11, 2019.

During that period, Amb. Taylor says he met with Ukraine's president three times and there was "no linkage of security assistance dollars to Biden or Burisma investigation" in any of the meetings.

Amb. Taylor added that Ukraine's president did not know at the time of the first two meetings that any assistance was being withheld, and only learned of it prior to their last meeting, when it was reported in an Aug. 29 Politico article. At that point, Amb. Taylor testified, there was still no discussion of conditions or why the aid was being withheld.

Amb. Taylor and Kent did not testify they heard that President Trump was looking for “political dirt,” mentioned the “2020 elections” or suggested anybody should fabricate or make up any dirt on the Bidens. Both men acknowledged they have never met or spoken to President Trump. However, both witnesses and the Democrats' counsel stated they concluded additional U.S. aid to Ukraine was temporarily held due to “personal or political interests of the President.”

Amb. Taylor testified he and Kent unaware of Ukrainian interference in the 2016 election in collusion with the Democratic National Committee (DNC) on behalf of Hillary Clinton, and the role Ukrainian-American Alexandra Chalupa played as a consultant for the DNC at the time, as described in a January 2017 Politico article. They stated they did not know a Ukrainian had admitted spreading disinformation to undermine Trump's candidacy. He said they learned of this only recently.

Amb. Taylor testified that the information in the Politico article “surprises me, disappoints me, because it’s a mistake for any government official to interfere” with another country.

Amb. Taylor stated that he was not testifying to help decide about impeachment and did not allege an impeachable offense against President Trump.

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ISIS bride is not a U.S. citizen, says judge

Hoda Muthana and child

A federal judge ruled today that a so-called "ISIS bride" Hoda Muthana is not a U.S. citizen and will not be allowed to return to the United States.

Muthana, a Muslim woman, told her family she was going on a field trip to Atlanta in 2014. Instead, she joined the Islamic extremist terrorist group ISIS in Syria. She reportedly married three different ISIS fighters, becoming a widower each time.

While part of ISIS, Muthana advocated for the murder of Americans.

In one tweet, she reportedly wrote: “Go on drive-bys and spill all of their blood, or rent a big truck and drive all over them. Veterans, Patriot, Memorial etc Day parades..go on drive by’s + spill all of their blood or rent a big truck n drive all over them. Kill them."

Muthana asked to be allowed to return to her family in the U.S. on the grounds she is a U.S. citizen and that she had diplomatic immunity for her crimes. She filed an appeal earlier this year when the U.S. government determined she had no right to return. She said she was willing to face trial in the U.S.

Although Muthana was born in the United States, the U.S. government determined she is not a citizen. That's because her father was a Yemeni diplomat posted to the United Nations in New York. Children of such diplomats are not entitled to birthright citizenship under the Fourteenth Amendment.

Muthana argued that she has received death threats from people who are still loyal to the Islamic extremist terrorist group ISIS, which she married into. She also says her child needs access to better medical care.

The Constitutional Law Center for Muslims in America says it will continue to fight to bring Muthana back to the U.S.

"United States citizenship cannot be revoked by tweet or any other form of social media, and today’s ruling does not change that," stated the Center in response to the court decision.

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"Historic increases" and border issues create backlogs in U.S. Trusted Traveler Programs

U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) reports an historic increase in new applications and renewals for its Trusted Traveler Programs (TTP), and significant delays processing them.

Backlogs blamed on:

  • Historic increases in new applications and renewals
  • Humanitarian and security crisis on southern border
  • Extended, partial government shutdown
  • CBP processes 100,000 - 200,000 applications and renewals/month

The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) "Precheck" program started in December 2011 at Las Vegas' McCarran International Airport. It has since expanded to several hundred airports.

It's part of a group of programs, including "Global Entry," that are administered by the Department of Homeland security. They enable travelers to go through quicker security at participating airports and when crossing international borders-- after paying a fee and passing a background check.

But customers have been suffering long delays in having their applications processed.

I discovered this for myself when I applied to renew my "Global Entry" pass on July 23, 2019.

It's as if the application went into a black hole.

Actually, it just went somewhere into the bowels of the Department of Homeland Security. After four months, I'm beginning to wonder if it will ever be heard from again.

Here's how the process works. After applicants fill out an online form and pay a fee, they're told to wait for "conditional approval." The website warns you won't get an email or other notification when approval is given: you have to log into the website to check every day (or as often as you figure it's worth checking).

After checking daily for awhile, you may start to realize this is a process that isn't going to take a day or two. Maybe weeks. You keep logging in to check. Weeks go by. Still--nothing.

For me, a big moment of realization came when the wrong mail was delivered to my home about a month and a half after I'd filled out my application and paid the fee. This particular mail was intended for my next door neighbor. It was his Global Entry renewal pass. When I delivered it, the neighbor's wife lamented about her spouse had waited months for his "conditional approval," logging into the TSA website to check day after day, week after week, month after month.

One clue as to what's wrong comes from a red alert that appears when applicants log into the Homeland Security website to check their status. It explains that "the extended partial government shutdown has resulted in a substantial backlog."

Until reading this, I wasn't aware we were even having an "extended partial government shutdown." It was time to put in a query to the Department of Homeland Security!

I got a timely response from Customs and Border Protection (CBP), where my query was referred.

First, they explained that we are not in an extended, partial government shutdown. The shutdown referred to in the red alert is the one that spanned about two months during December 2018 and January 2019. Apparently, that brief shutdown is still drastically slowing the processing of applications almost a year later.

But perhaps an even bigger factor, says CBP, is the "historic increase in new applications and renewals." And there's a third issue impacting the time it takes to process: the border crisis.

"These record numbers combined with the partial government shutdown and the additional deployment of CBP personnel in response to the ongoing humanitarian and security crisis on our southern border created a considerable backlog," a CBP spokesman told me.

The spokesman went on to say that, in recent months, there's been "significant progress" in reducing the backlog.

For new Global Entry applicants, about 65% of applications are processed within zero to 15 days, and about 30-35% of applications require more than 90 days to process.

Customs and Border Protection spokesman

CBP told me that only about one-third of applications require more than 90 days to process.

(Lucky me. I'm about to enter my fifth month...)

CBP also notes: "As of April 2019, membership is being extended from 6 months to 1 year beyond the expiration date provided that the member submits a renewal application before their membership expires. During this 1-year extension, cards will remain valid for use."

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Sen. Graham chides Republican colleagues for not doing more to defend Trump

The head of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) seemed to express frustration and imply that his hands are tied when it comes to Republicans providing a counterpoint to Democrat-led impeachment hearings, which began today in the House of Representatives.

On Fox News Tuesday night, host Sean Hannity asked Graham why the Republican-controlled Senate isn’t holding simultaneous hearings.

At issue, according to Trump supporters, is alleged corruption involving Democrats’ involvement with Ukraine, the 2016 elections, Ukrainian energy company Burisma where Joe Biden’s son served on the board, then-Vice President Biden’s threat to withhold U.S. aid unless Ukraine fired the prosecutor investigating Burisma, the alleged impeachment whistleblower, and the House Democrats’ impeachment push. 

Graham indicated that some of those controversies are under the purview of different Republican-led Senate committees, whose chairman have not moved to hold hearings.

“The whistleblower is under the jurisdiction of the Intel Committee, all things about Hunter Biden is under the jurisdiction of the Foreign Relations Committee,” Graham stated.

Richard Burr (R-N.C.), Chairman of Senate Intelligence Committee

Richard Burr (R-N.C.) is chairman of Senate Intelligence Committee. Jim Risch (R-Idaho) is chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committe.

Sen. Jim Risch (R-Idaho), Chairman of Senate Foreign Relations Committee

Graham went on to indicate that he felt his Republican colleagues should be doing more. “If I were Chairman Risch, I would call the State Department officials in to express concerns about a conflict of interest with Hunter Biden and see where that takes you.”

“If I were Chairman Risch, I would call the State Department officials in to express concerns about a conflict of interest with Hunter Biden and see where that takes you.”

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.)

Graham also implied that some other Senate Republicans are not being outspoken enough.

“The first thing I want my colleagues in the Senate to do is step up and say ‘What’s going on in the House is unfair, unAmerican, we’re not going to bless it,’ and I’d like my colleagues in the Senate to say ‘There is no quid pro quo here’ because the money was given to the Ukraine and Hunter Biden, Joe Biden were not investigated.’ I’d like Republicans to speak up and say ‘This is a bunch of garbage.”

Democrats say President Trump engaged in an improper quid pro quo with Ukraine, withholding U.S. aid to get political dirt on Biden for his own political purposes in the 2020 campaign.

Trump's supporters say the President properly sought Ukraine's cooperation in investigating corruption and foreign interference in the 2016 campaign, as well as the alleged involvement of Democrats. They also point out that "political dirt" was neither discussed nor delivered, campaign 2020 was not referenced, and a temporary hold on U.S. aid was lifted.

If the Democrat-controlled House votes to impeach President Trump as expected, the case then goes to the Republican-controlled Senate for a trial to see if Trump should be removed from office. That would take a two-thirds "super majority" or 67 votes.

The current political makeup of the Senate is 53 Republicans and 47 Democrats (including two independents).

Watch the full interview below. The operative segment begins approximately five minutes into the interview.

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Most are "very dissatisfied" with Congress

Most people are not pleased with Congress, according to the latest unscientific poll here at SharylAttkisson.com.

When asked, "How do you feel about Congress, overall?" 97% stated they were "Very dissatisfied." Add in the "Somewhat dissatisfied" and we're up to a full 98%.

Read the full results below. Meantime, be sure and vote in our latest poll at SharylAttkisson.com on the home page. Look for the black box in the right sidebar or scroll way down on the mobile site!

How do you feel about Congress, overall?

1% Very satisfied

0% Somewhat satisfied

1% Somewhat dissatisfied

97% Very dissatisfied

1% I don't care

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