- Israelis who were vaccinated were reportedly 6.72 times more likely to get infected after the shot than after natural infection
According to reports from Israel: recovered Covid patients are “far less likely to become infected” than vaccinated people.
That data comes from Israel’s Health Ministry regarding the country’s latest wave of the pandemic.
Source: Israel Health Ministry
The data reportedly shows:
7,700 new cases of Covid during wave starting in May
3,000+ (40%) were reported in people who had been vaccinated
72 (<1%) were reported in people previously infected
According to reports, 835,792 Israelis are known to have recovered from Covid. So 72 reinfections amount to 0.0086% of people who were already infected with COVID.
By contrast, Israelis who were vaccinated were 6.72 times more likely to get infected after the shot than after natural infection, with over 3,000 of the 5,193,499, or 0.0578%, of Israelis who were vaccinated getting infected in the latest wave.
IsraelNationalNews.com
Source: Israel Health Ministry
I’d like to see the report your numbers come from. Not to be disrespectful, but that would carry more weight than numbers you post with no connection to a report.
See the bottom link that says, “Read more here.”
this simply directs to a news report and not the actual study. The study showed that 1 previously infected case was hospitalised against 8 of the vaccinated.the groups were sorted by gender and age, so they had a similar proportion. .
The infected group unvaccinated was 62883, whereas the vaccinated group was 673000.. of which 238 got infected as opposed to about 18 of the previously infected. Now a crude look at the data would suggest that as the Vaccinated group was 10.7 times larger then one would expect that there would have been 10/11 hospitalised not less. If it was 13 times worse then it should have bbeen 130. But we also forget tha 11% of israels were over 65
and these are more likely to get infected. the problem is reports do not break down the infected by age and gender and there seem to be no links to this study we also do not know where the respondents lived. Not all areas of Israel were subject to high infection.. basing anything on a newspaper report that does not actually do any maths is a bade idea.
People like you should just go away. They call you “Doubting Thomas”.
People like you are called fools that believe everything they read. You should always want to know where the info comes from and if its sound. Never trust blindly and implicitly.
Agreed, no matter what you are reading, you should always be looking for data to back it up.
I don’t think so.. It’s good to ask for sources because we get so much misinformation from the feds, JHU (whose data is a mish mash of sources that are likely not normalized), WHO, et al. He said he wasn’t trying to be disrespectful. If he were one of ‘those kind’ I think he would be sarcastic or rude.
Misinformation is spread by Facebook, Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Moderna, and the rest of pharmaceutical crime mafia.
there is nothing wrong with doubting the numbers, you should not blindly believe everything you read or hear. id rather be a doubting thomas than a blind sheep.
Absolutely!!! Too dumb to look into it further. I just told off my liberal a-hole neighbors who didn’t want me near them because i haven’t had the jab. But, I have had covid. They are in their 70’s and over-weight–good luck with that.
That data comes from Israel’s Health Ministry regarding the country’s latest wave of the pandemic.
That data comes from Israel’s Health Ministry regarding the country’s latest wave of the pandemic.
President Lincoln once said that you better keep your mouth shut and look idiot than open it and confirm you are one!
Study link here: chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/viewer.html?pdfurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.medrxiv.org%2Fcontent%2F10.1101%2F2021.08.24.21262415v1.full.pdf&clen=131774&chunk=true
Information security expert on revealed Pfizer agreements: ‘There’s good reason Pfizer fought to hide the details of these contracts’
“If you were wondering why Ivermectin was suppressed, it is because the agreement that countries had with Pfizer does not allow them to escape their contract, which states that even if a drug will be found to treat COVID-19, the contract cannot be voided.”
https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/frontlinenews/information-security-expert-on-revealed-pfizer-agreements-theres-good-reason-pfizer-fought-to-hide-the-details-of-these-contracts/
From article:
AFLDS Chief Science Officer Dr. Michael Yeadon responded to the revelations after perusing the Albania contract, saying it “looks genuine.” He continued: “I know the basic anatomy of these agreements and nothing is missing that I’d expect to be present, and I’ve seen no clues that suggests it’s fake.”
Yeadon noted what he found “the most stunning revelation,” citing the clause that stipulates “if there are any laws or regulations in your country under which Pfizer could be prosecuted, you agree to CHANGE THE LAW OR REGULATION to close that off.” (emphasis his)
To PDF: https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/files/real-world-epidemiological-evidence-collaboration-agreement-israel/
The latest data from Israel appears to be different:
“This week Dr. Kobi Haviv, the medical director of Israel’s leading center for respiratory care, joined the country’s Channel 13 News to share an extremely concerning update regarding breakthrough cases among the vaccinated.
According to Dr. Haviv, the vaccinated account for 85-90% of all new hospitalizations and 95% of “severe” cases at the Herzog Medical Center in Jerusalem.”
https://electioncircus.blogspot.com/2021/08/leading-israeli-health-official.html
How much money is the NIH making on the patent for the vaccine does anybody know?
So the 60% unvaxxed-infected category. with a survival rate of >99.5%, can now be moved into the “previously-infected” IMMUNED category so that California; New York; Israel; Australia and the other totalitarian states can stop acting like BROWN-SHIRT NAZIS!
Source for this data on vaccinated v unvaccinated in Israel.
Hi Sharyl,
I am writing on this for an Irish news site called Gript.ie and I am trying to find the Israeli government source for this. So far every story seems to come back to the IsraelNationalNews source you have above which doesn’t link to the Dept of Health source.
Have you found it the Dept of Health source by any chance? If you have would you be able to send me the link?
Thanks,
Lorcán
See link that says,, “Read More Here” at the bottom of the page.
Criminal behavior of israeli politicians protecting Pfizer criminals. It is clear now that the vaccines are a dangerous and deadly fraud and that these people have killed. Very clear now.
They could have just been wrong, you know. A lot of people have been.
Sharyl and Full Measure Team,
— Copy to paper, then nix this report —
Sardi’s Doubts // Dr. Miller on Shakespeare // My Flu Cure // Global Hoax
Forwarded Message :
(( reponding to Bill
Sard’s rebuttal, below
my explanation ))
All true, Bill—but we’re forcing the body’s blood
to eject a toxin for a short period!!!, via alkalizing
– via SHOCKING – the blood/lymph system.
So, “blood cells will be destroyed”—and with those
few die-offs (( one may track the degree of alkalinity
using a urine test strip! )) the flu-victim might other-
wise live.
Stomach acid?—I’m not eating while sick with flu.
Again, with all of your below
concerns—we’re talking
of STRESSING the pH
balance for a SHORT
TIME.
So, one physician was extremely interested in my cure,
enough to wish to publish my accidental discovery
(( found out his interest stopped for having to focus
on a divorce, after 30 years of marriage )).
/R
On Aug 9, 2021, at 9:26 AM, BILL SARDI wrote:
Completely illogical
Blood must be neutral pH, 7.2 to 7.4 or blood cells will be destroyed.
Stomach must be acidic or nutrients won’t be absorbed and infection will occur
Bladder and urine must be acidic or infection will ensue
If you take highly alkaline baking soda the stomach will shift back to acid very strongly and that alters nerves in the spleen that prevent autoimmune reactions.
Take antacids and you get cancer and infection.
B Sardi
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On Aug 9, 2021, at 5:29 AM, My Name wrote:
—Right !
Dr. Miller,
You needn’t reply to this, but consider the
worldwide implications if broadly known :
I had experimented on vitamin/herbal/mineral
remedies to combat flu since ‘71—focusing on
the nutrition-science options.
One flu season—taking a hint from the movie,
“Andromeda Strain” : I contracted flu, got
into a hot tub, then began cycling deep, rapid
breaths – inducing alkalosis! – for 4 cycles,
ending each cycle at the point of becoming
numb and dizzy about/in the face/brain.
Within an hour: very high fever (103), soaking
my bedclothes, then, within minutes, my fever
broke—to feeling well (within two hours) !
Ponder that.
Weak for sweets – my theory as to cause of
loss of immunity – I caught a flu-bug 2 more
following seasons, and used my remedy to
knock them out in a couple of hours—of
having induced EXTREME alkalosis, via hyper-
ventilation.
Here’s my brief story :
— My 1990 Flu Cure —
This scribbler discovered an effective CURE
for flu in 1990, and distributed the details of
the ACCIDENTAL discovery here and across
the Pond—no interest!, except for one Arizona
doctor who wrote to say he wanted to get it
into a journal, then . . . nothing more from him.
Here is an outline of why the cure works :
Viruses can’t survive in an ALKALINE body ;
and SUGAR trips alkalinity into ACIDITY ;
and, so, generally, stop consuming sugar in
the winter months ; and if one feels flu-bug
symptoms, inducing extreme ALKALOSIS
( what a ventilator does! ) can reduce viral
load toward recovery. Details of how I do
that, without a ventilator, is in my diary/
report, and which details describe how flu
symptoms are nixed within a couple of
hours of beginning my regimen. I have done
that several times (( while my wife and 3-year-
old son, in 1990, had suffered the usual 7-/
10-day cycle of the flu )).
HCQ works because quinine has a pH of
about 12—to nudge an acidic body into
alkalinity (( celery, chicken broth, lettuce,
carrots, avocado . . . search for ALKALINE
inducing foods to eat in winter months )).
So, each soda contains about 6 tsps. of
sugar! Have a soda; eat birthday cake with
ice cream; down a few cookies; enjoy that
candy bar—and risk respiratory illness.
In the 1920s, when the team that was to become the FDA – team of researchers to find and outlaw dangerous chemicals and contaminants found in our food – had found sugar to be DANGEROUS and targeted for control . . . but, then, was given a pass for approval because a certain soda industry was thought to be “too iconically American” to target (( btw, some few years ago the sugar industry had bribed Harvard researches not to reveal the SCIENCE that INDICTED sugar—and shifted all blame for heart disease to actual heart-/health-protecting real Dairy BUTTER and other good FATS )).
-Rick
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On Aug 8, 2021, at 8:18 PM, Donald Miller wrote:
Thank you, Rick.
C-19 deaths have included people who die from other causes but have a “positive” PCR Covid test. (which the CDC is abandoning in December because of its extremely high rate of “false positives.”
Don
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On Fri, Aug 6, 2021 at 12:25 PM My Name wrote:
Dr. Miller,
Re: “The Shakespeare Revolution”
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/08/donald-w-miller-jr-md/the-shakespeare-revolution/
That piece is a KEEPER!—so well done, one
ought to call your effort: “The Last Word!”
You need’t reply.
JungianINTP,
-Rick
P.S.
FYI :
All you need to know is found in
this DEEP State report, aired on
all major networks, some months
back.
“The flu is down 98% from 2019!”
(( colds, too?—which drove tens-of
thousands of terrified moms to
rush their babies to hospital; and
how many deaths from being treated
for mere CORONA-colds, head and/or
chest infections ? ! ))
The normal year-to-year flu has
been WEAPONIZED into “Covid-
19,” using a global PROPAGANDA
operation—in order to stop
President Trump and his Christian,
LOGIC-driven supporters.
Keep in mind, the original computer
modeling out of GB had been grossly
wrong!!, and that W.H.O. had admitted
the actual number of infections did
NOT meet its own definition of what
constitutes a “PANDEMIC.”
No, this is an EPIDEMIC!—and C-19
deaths have been compiled by adding
ALL-causes of deaths to the numbers
(( and, yes, actual life-saving
treatments have been withheld, such
as HCQ, to RAISE that death-tally )).
-Rick.
I would like to see the re-infected statistics broken down into previously infected with symptoms and without symptoms. That would be the difference between a case and a positive test, inferring possibly false positives. A case means you exhibit symptoms of disease, a positive test does not. There is misrepresentation of definitions and fear mongering, summed up as “lies, damn lies and statistics.” I see cases listed as vaccinated vs. unvaccinated with no middle ground of partially vaccinated or recovered. You could further refine partially vaccinated to one mrna dose or two doses without the approximately 14 days needed afterwards to reach their definition of fully vaccinated. It is maddening. According to the CDC’s own website about 120 million Americans have been exposed to covid-19. Why are these people not being counted towards herd immunity? I want to know the number of recovered, the number of vaccinated and the amount of overlap so we can have a real picture of herd immunity. Heck at least the Israelis count the recovered towards herd immunity.
Would you please share the source for your data? Who presented the numbers to the Israeli health ministry?
Thank you.
See the link that says “Read More Here” at the bottom of the article.
Ashe, stop with the “Read More Here” that link takes you to the news article, that news article DOES NOT link to the study. We want to see the study, not the news article.
Vaccination is mandatory in Israel unless you have prior immunity.
NO.
NO mandatory vaccination nor in Israel nor anywhere else.
In the report to the Israeli Health Ministry approximately 1 in every 2,200 immunized Israelis became infected with SARS-CoV-2 in this latest outbreak that started in May 2021. That makes the fully vaccinated who have never before been infected 6.5 times more likely to become infected than people who have previously recovered from a SARS-CoV-2 infection, assuming that the previously infected who have also received a SARS-Co-2 vaccine are being counted only in the previously infected group.
And, no mention is made of rates of hospitalizations and COVID-19 deaths in either of these two groups, so, I will assume low hospitalization and death rates in both groups.
So, I’m not certain booster doses are called for in all but those most at risk of death if the risk of infection for the fully vaccinated is so low, only 1 in 2,200, during a similar outbreak, especially if few if any among the fully vaccinated who become infected then become seriously ill or die. And the fully vaccinated who do subsequently become infected should then enjoy a much higher level of immunity, at least for an as yet uncertain period of time.
So, maybe it would make more sense to offer booster doses only to those who, because of extreme old age, obesity or significant underlying medical conditions, are most at risk of death from COVID-19.
The risk to the fully vaccinated seems much lower than the impression this article is trying to convey..
The flaw in analysis may lie in the definition of “cases”, if “cases” means only “tested positive”.
It’s common fact that unvaccinated test very often, even when not sick, to have access to some restricted facilities. Some even get tested every 3 days. This way, they are more eager to be detected as a “case” even if they are asymptomatic. They will “recover” from non-sickness.
Vaccinated test only when they have symptoms, when they are really sick.
Luv your contribution to pursuit/exposure of the Truth, Sharyl – “keep right on a Truth’n”! The ironies jiz keep on a come’n! Another possible Jewish Holocaust this time precipitated by . . . WHOM?! And sooo . . . deserving? The Lord’s methods of judgement continue to amaze!
Hello Rick, How are you doing these days? Great posts. I am quite impressed by Dr Miller’s writings as well. However, I would like to know more about what you have posted on self treatment. Thx, Brad.
Why doesn’t the US collect and report information on people who had covid??? They always ask, are you vaccinated, but they never ask have you tested positive for covid in the past .
The kona airport has been collecting information all year.
It has never asked have you ever tested positive for covid in the past.
It takes tests and requires tests or qaurentine.
Another question is how many vaccinated people had covid before getting the vaccine??
I know a few.
There are so many variables that we are kept in the dark about.
60% of new infections are coming from the 15% of the un-vaccinated population.
Pointing out that CDC estimates half off US population is fully vaccinated, and that the least likely to get infected in any group, according to scientific studies, are the unvaccinated who had covid previously.
See, you fail to distinguish between the immunologically-naive unvaccinated and the recovered-unvaccinated.
It’s this kind of shoddy thinking that causes so much confusion.
Both my wife and I were fully vaccinated (both shots).
She had been vaccinated for about a month (both shots) and I about 4 months (both shots).
We both got Covid-19 according to NAAT test for the wife and antigen for me.
I see its stated 40%, lets let the dust settle first!
Vaccines have been as low as 10%!
Yeah,
Regarding good data, those who made the vaccines have no data on what can happen to you.
Proof of that is that they are too scared, and in-confident in the stuff, to take responsibility for what happens to you from the vaccine.
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